It's interesting how many people here rationalise the trash that Windows 11 is by thinking that Microsoft is purposefully trying things out for Windows 12 which will be much better again. As if Microsoft would actually produce trash on purpose and piss off lots of their remaining customers with some optimistic big picture in mind. Nah, the truth is they actually think it's a great OS which is really the scary thing in this entire thing. You'd think one day they'd manage to hire at least one good UX person from their competitors to clean up the trash Windows has been for years now but they keep thinking they can do it themselves with the same people who have already been doing the same trash for way too long.
Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome
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Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome
#142Ok, so I don’t condone this behavior by Microsoft or Google, but I do use edge at work since we are a Microsoft heavy company with Sharepoint, teams, outlook, and all that. If we were using Google I’d surely use Chrome, but edge bakes in your Microsoft work profile to the browser and when searching on Bing you can find documents on your internal network easily. I also like the fact that edge supports vertical tabs ou…
yeah, but instead of removing those banners and supporting ad-blocking and filtering, microsoft chooses to add more pop-ups and banners.
indeed this is the added trust of msft.
Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome
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There is, just turn off Windows Updates.
It isn't so straight forward if you aren't in the know on special tooling like O&O ShutUp 10 to accomplish it for you. Even then it'll get reset after updating and you'll have to fix it again. There is no "don't ever update unless I tell you to" checkbox, there is only the option to pause them for a limited time. Windows is actively user hostile when it comes to updates.
Use Windows Pro and Group Policy Editor. There isn't a checkbox there but a radio box that allows you to configure update behaviour in detail. Never had an issue with it during all upgrades.
And if Windows Home users should be able to disable automatic updates is debatable.
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I don’t like this new form of writing, I’m not sure what it’s called. It’s not just informal, it’s cringy. I especially hate funny error messages as they just frustrate me. It’s ok when Reddit has a funny image because they can’t show my video game forum, but it’s infuriating when Microsoft shows a “whoops, what happened” when it just failed to sync the last 30 minutes of my work document.
Maybe it's a generation gap, but I've seen this in other places. I got a text message from my student loan servicer - It "needs 2know if U wish 2stay in Autopay". I thought it was spam, but it's real. Do Gen Zers really think this is okay, or am I getting too old
gen Zers know it's stupid, but have the ability to cope with reality and just go on with their business, instead of obstinately pretending to be 'baffled' by something that's been in common usage for twenty years, then complainging about it on the internet.
you're thinking really hard about paying your student loans now, so it worked. who doesn't understand what's going on? doesn't sound like it's your loan-servicer, to me.
Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome
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"iwr https://chocolatey.org/install.ps1 | iex" installs chocolatey without having to open IE
I see. That's why my comment was worded so carefully: though I'm sure one _could_ install chocolatey from the Windows CLI, a tiny minority ever would do so. But that's for introducing me to the iwr command. I don't use Windows often, but it's good to know what tools are available in the rare instances that I need to. Now I need a mnemonic to remember it... "I Want Real (curl)"
C:\Windows\System32\curl.exe exists if you want real curl. (or just run curl from a command prompt. curl in powershell is an alias for iwr.
Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome
#146I heard some people having a decent time with Edge in the past with some features implementations. Not that I would use it myself, but I'm firmly convinced these childish plays only ruin whatever good work was done on it. Who on Earth would continue using a browser that has such hostile behavior and dark patterns all over the place e.g., buy-now-pay-later at browser level? It's so hard to trust Microsoft anyway, I'm…
Windows releases always alternates between horrible and good enough. 11 will fester on some machines for a while like 8, Vista and ME did. Enterprise will stick to 10, and anyone who cares enough to fight dark patterns every time Windows update runs. 12 will likely be good enough for everyone to upgrade. 14 (they'll skip #13) will be garbo, 15 will be ok. Sun goes up, sun goes down.
Windows 10 was a horrible release. With the passage of time, it has become just about usable (although not really in my opinion). When it came out, though, it had an immense amount of bloatware (candy crush), idiotic auto-updating, sample-your-DNA levels of spyware, Cortana rubbish, identical settings in two places, and a whole host of other unpleasantness. All for what, the dark theme? I fucking despised Windows 10. This myth of alternate-releases-good died with Windows 10. Heck, Windows 8.1, with it's full screen start menu, was still a better release in my opinion.
Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t like this new form of writing, I’m not sure what it’s called. It’s not just informal, it’s cringy. I especially hate funny error messages as they just frustrate me. It’s ok when Reddit has a funny image because they can’t show my video game forum, but it’s infuriating when Microsoft shows a “whoops, what happened” when it just failed to sync the last 30 minutes of my work document.
Microsoft has been doing that for years, the blue screen of death contained an emoticon starting around Windows 7.
following in sad mac's footsteps ... decades after.
Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome
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Would the words have been over 160 characters?
The 160 character limit is an ancient relic of 2008 (unlike Chrome)
I'm pretty sure that longer messages still generate multiple "packets" or whatever you want to call them on the backend. Which is important if you're paying per packet. It's just that every modern phone knows how to collect and stitch them together into a single displayed message. That's why phones still display the number of messages being generated when you type in longer ones. For instance, mine starts showing "10/1", then after another character "9/1", eventually to "0/1" and then "145/2".
Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome
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i just don't see the point, from a consumer perspective, in all the major players fighting over who's version of Chromium is the most preferred. I get why the company's care - i just don't get why anyone else does. Firefox, for all it's modern faults, is the only browser that's actually different in any substantial way.
> Firefox, for all it's modern faults, is the only browser that's actually different in any substantial way. as a casual reader, I know this is false.. several HUGE efforts, have failed to gain the eyeballs of readers . repeating that there is only one choice, is not useful or constructive right?
Re: Microsoft’s new Windows prompts try to stop people downloading Chrome
#150"Microsoft Edge runs on the same technology as Chrome, with the added trust of Microsoft." They named their user tracking, telemetry, and "Buy Now, Pay Later" add-ons "trust"? That's really Orwellian.
The definition of trust that security professionals use is that A trusts B if B has some way to do something bad to A. A can stop trusting B by taking steps to eliminate the ability of B to harm A.
So, the statement "Microsoft Edge runs on the same technology as Chrome, with the added trust of Microsoft" actually means "Microsoft Edge runs on the same technology as Chrome, with the added ability for Microsoft to screw you over".