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Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Like several other comments here, I had the same experience as you and decided to go with plex. What no one mentioned is that plex allows you to add a tidal library in addition to your self hosted content. It's not a perfectly seamless experience because you have to mark tidal albums one at a time to add to your self hosted library and I don't think you can cache them offline on plexamp (for android at least), but it…

I found Plex fairly useless for managing my music library but throwing everything into my Synology's Audio Station and connecting via DS Audio has been amazing.

The new PlexAmp music player from Plex has revitalised my music library on Plex. I would have agreed with your statement prior to using PlexAmp, but I now listen to way more of my old music library than before.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Help me understand how filename is useful in a way that other metadata doesn’t already cover, please.

Somewhat niche, but in the electronic music genre (house, techno, trance etc.) albums and single tracks are a rare thing. People mostly listen and consume DJ livesets/-mixes, and using filenames & folders to organize is basically the way to go. It is very difficult to come up with any sane metadata system, let alone that all music players are unable to cope with that kind of music collection. Public metadata database…

I don't understand, why can't the DJ be the artist and the filename be the track title? Isn't that roughly how SoundCloud works?

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Downloading flac audio files and syncing them to wherever has been working fine for the last 15+N years. I've never felt the need to subscribe to any music service. All the less so if you want a 'library-focused' experience. My method doesn't have shitty UI downgrades, it doesn't remove albums randomly, it doesn't play ads, it doesn't collect my data, it doesn't have compatibility issues, it doesn't have downtime, it doesn't require internet connection, you have full control over all aspects.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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For me, having a local music library is doubly as important because I am often out of reliable cell service. I usually rip CDs to my iPhone, but as of yet I have avoided paying for any music services. I generally prefer to own my music rather than rely on pulling it down from somebody's server, not to mention that streaming audio uses significant battery on a mobile device.

I use YT music when I have reliable internet and I want to listen to something I don't own.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Downloading flac audio files and syncing them to wherever has been working fine for the last 15+N years. I've never felt the need to subscribe to any music service. All the less so if you want a 'library-focused' experience. My method doesn't have shitty UI downgrades, it doesn't remove albums randomly, it doesn't play ads, it doesn't collect my data, it doesn't have compatibility issues, it doesn't have downtime, it…

The game changer for me: at any point in time if I like the music I’m hearing I pull up my phone, launch shazam, get the music from apple music directly into my library. It’s seamless enough that I don’t see myself going back.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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The product referred to as "Apple Music" isn't library focused. The app now known as Music and the service known as "iTunes Match" is. Apple Music is the music as a service subscription that keeps pushing adverts in app and keeps turning itself back on even if you're not subscribed and have turned it off.

All the features of "iTunes Match" are included in Apple Music as long as you have "Sync Library" turned on. For a while there was a subtle difference in that music uploaded to Apple Music would have DRM applied to it, and iTunes Match would not, but this is no longer the case.

Are you sure? I can’t remember why but I’m subscribed to both. I’m pretty sure I couldn’t play my own music without iTunes match.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Recently, I found a bunch of mp3 files on an old flash-drive. I copied them to my laptop and played them. After using music services (Pandora, Amazon, Spotify, Google Play, YT Music, etc.), I found the experience to be amazing. I forgot what responsiveness was like when listening to music. I pressed "Next" and, instantly, the next song started playing; no short, but annoying delay. I scrolled through songs to my favorite part, and once again, no delays. There were no commercials. No terrible "suggestions". I didn't feel like someone was watching my every click, every song choice. It was just music, like the good old days of 2009. :)

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Is DRM applied to iTunes Match too now? That's unfortunate.

iTunes Match is a subscription service, right? Buying individual tracks or entire albums from the iTunes Store gets you DRM-free music files. No?

Yes to both.

Re: Apple Music is the last library focused music service

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Spotify, Apple Music, Tidal, Google Music or whatever now is called. I tried them all. They are all the same to me. There is one big thing that all these streaming services are missing: *METADATA* Give me all the album by this label, all the songs produced by X or all the songs where in Y plays drums. All the albums recorded at some studio in the year Z. With tools like this I will spend years (and whatever money) on…

Check out Roon: https://roonlabs.com/features

You can use it with both Tidal and your own music files.

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