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Re: Instagram Is Facebook Now

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post #12

If you follow any Young People™ you'll notice that they're all using Stories now, which still have ads, but are at least chronological. Posts (the original product) are for "Old People" (28+).

Most people under the age of 30 are using Snapchat

Single European datapoint, I'm currently in university.

In my country we have different levels of tertiary (?) education, as far as I can tell, lower levels of education have way more Snapchat use than Instagram. For most students of higher levels Snapchat is only used to share your night out with friend groups, but pretty much nothing else, while Instagram is used way more.

Re: Instagram Is Facebook Now

#32
I don't understand Instagram language. My GF uses it. It is full of digital influencers, people who make money because they are digital influencers. Young people with sometimes funny but generally pointless and most often ridiculous dancing moves to an equally ridiculous repetitive song. People buying expensive things, doing idiot things talking about uninteresting details of the uninteresting lives of equally uninteresting people...

I don't understand the hypnotic effect it has.

Re: Instagram Is Facebook Now

#33
post #28

I abandoned Instagram few weeks ago since it's absolutely hostile towards its' users. Opened an app, noticed that I got into another god awful AB-test (snapping posts to top of the feed instead of a normal scrolling) and just couldn't force myself to use it.

It's awful. I have it on one account, and not on my other one. The result of the snapping is I stop scrolling and close the app much sooner when browsing that account.

Re: Instagram Is Facebook Now

#34

I don't understand Instagram language. My GF uses it. It is full of digital influencers, people who make money because they are digital influencers. Young people with sometimes funny but generally pointless and most often ridiculous dancing moves to an equally ridiculous repetitive song. People buying expensive things, doing idiot things talking about uninteresting details of the uninteresting lives of equally uninte…

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Re: Instagram Is Facebook Now

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Facebook aside you really see this across the board on almost any platform, that once the product reaches it's 1.0 stage, (where it is good, does what the users want it to do, and has realised its vision) it begins a process of gradual decay, as the focus of the product managers (now panicking to find some statistics to improve to show their bosses) shifts from "building functionality" to "increasing engagement/retention/active users per month".

Whatever product it is, whether a social media platform or an online learning platform, it will slowly be zombified into an attention sucking machine, whose goal has now become to keep you interacting with the app as much as possible (using ML and DL of course).

I mean, Twitter now sends me daily notifications that a person I follow made a random tweet (wasn't this the purpose of the news feed?), Udemy now has a notification service and an inbox that fills up with automated messages that are just a "welcome to the course" message. Everywhere I look, the pattern is the same, Product is good > Product adds social features > Product attempts to cluster user activity and make recommendations based on social features.

We, as in the IT industry, need to come up with a culture or methodology of 'declaring a product complete' whereby all product managers are gracefully allowed to move on and a product is put into a state of stasis, where bugfixes and the occasional relevant feature is built. If a product was not designed to show intelligent recommendations, use gamification or become a notification dashboard then that should be bared from ever appearing in its Backlog.

I'm deeply worried about the long-term effects of an industry that is booming by sending sending some of our brightest minds to scale the economy of distractions Or to innovate Ad-tech.

I really hope we'll look back at this age with the same wisdom-fuelled disgust we have when we look back at the early industrial age. Where smog factories were built in the middle of cities and dusty kids were shovelling coal. We lack any sort of foresight wrt. the digital economy we're building. Maybe one day we'll find a healthy alternative to make software-products users love.

But until then, seldom are the days where I do not look at the internet with such savage despair.

Re: Instagram Is Facebook Now

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post #26

Well I guess there is a market opening for ChronoPic then, a new photosharing platform with comments, tags and likes... In chronological order! Because if Instagram acts like Facebook, it's ruined. I had noticed the last few months (and I'm not a heavy user at all), that literally every 4-5 pictures was an advert video. It made me sick to my gut to use it. What also makes me sick is the amount of people just doomscro…

What you want is SMS group chats. No ads. No sign up. Sorta ephemeral. Always chronological.

Re: Instagram Is Facebook Now

#39
This is the kind of stuff that makes it hard to claim that Facebook is a "neutral" platform. When you start inserting content into my feed based on some engagement algorithm you become responsible for what content goes viral.

Re: Instagram Is Facebook Now

#40

I don't understand Instagram language. My GF uses it. It is full of digital influencers, people who make money because they are digital influencers. Young people with sometimes funny but generally pointless and most often ridiculous dancing moves to an equally ridiculous repetitive song. People buying expensive things, doing idiot things talking about uninteresting details of the uninteresting lives of equally uninte…

It's television for the current generation. I've noticed my parents and inlaws cannot exist without having the television on. I mean they can, but pick a random day, show up at their house and the TV is on some show that they are remotely interested in but watching because they had nothing else to do. That's instagram/facebook/snapchat/etc.
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