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Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by InitialLastName »

WhyNotHugo wrote: post #99
Kinrany wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the same problem as land value tax that was never solved.

It's solved in some [rather left leaning] countries. When you buy land you must put it to use, and if it's unused after X years, it's considered abandoned and it goes up for sale again. TBH, I think it's a solid model -- buying a finite resource like land merely with the intent to deprive others of it and make a profit in the long term is as unethical as it gets. Though completely legal is most places, of course.

This is effectively the justification that was used to repeatedly confiscate land from the indigenous peoples of the current US: "They aren't building visible improvements on the land in the way that settlers will, so move them off and give it to settlers".

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by superluserdo »

ted0 wrote: post #213
MerelyMortal wrote: post #204

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Former Namecheap customer here, thank you for the transparancy. (I only left Namecheap because of the interface, I found that Dynadot was comparable in price and features, but with a nicer GUI. NC seems like a good company otherwise, so I'm always open to the possibility of switching back.)

Sorry to hear you had trouble with our interface. We do have some pretty substantial updates planned for 2022 and would love to have you back. Feel free to shoot any feedback to ted [at] namecheap.com.

Does that update include the ability to dynamically update a host's IPV6 address via a request to dynamicdns.park-your-domain.com? The guide [0] mentions that

>It is only possible to dynamically update IPv4 addresses (A records) at this time. Currently, IPv6 is not supported by our Dynamic DNS.

Is there any particular thing blocking this feature from being available for IPV6?

[0] https://www.namecheap.com/support/knowledgebase/article.aspx...

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by eropple »

SanchoPanda wrote: post #43
eropple wrote: post #28

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ccTLDs are perhaps marginally less reliable given who has overriding control over them (.ly is Libya, for example), but beyond that it's probably pretty low on your list of things to care about.

This is not true if you want email to come from you main domain and you choose a remotely exotic TLD. I learned this the hard way. Don't be like me, choose a boring TLD, worry about less stupid things - there are so so many already.

That's a good point, I was thinking of it from a web perspective.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by ksec »

ted0 wrote: post #265
ksec wrote: post #254

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Taking this opportunity to ask industry professionals..... What the hell is happening to ".Web"?

Still in limbo but looks like Verisign will be able to launch it at some point: http://domainincite.com/27180-verisign-boss-talks-web-launch...

>Still in limbo

Thx. They won it in 2016 and we are fast coming to 2022. Sigh

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by flashgordon »

WhyNotHugo wrote: post #99
Kinrany wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the same problem as land value tax that was never solved.

It's solved in some [rather left leaning] countries. When you buy land you must put it to use, and if it's unused after X years, it's considered abandoned and it goes up for sale again. TBH, I think it's a solid model -- buying a finite resource like land merely with the intent to deprive others of it and make a profit in the long term is as unethical as it gets. Though completely legal is most places, of course.

But how hard is it really to put a domain to use? Put up a hugo generated page that is even remotely related to the topic and off you go. Worse save a few related pages and reupload to a static site provider. A genuine entity wanting the domain will look to purchase even with "valid looking" content in there no?

Surely "put to use" doesnt imply profiting? If it does put up banner ads?

I am not saying this is ethical - just hard to make it discernible from ethical use. Atleast with land building something on it costs real money so it is easier to validate the "put to good use" clause! Sigh!

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by flashgordon »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #149
cj wrote: post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

> How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? The simplest solution would be to revoke domains with domain parking pages on them. If the domain contains an offer to sell the domain, you lose the domain. That wouldn't solve 100% of the problem, but it would solve 80% of the problem, and that's better…

``` If the domain contains an offer to sell the domain, you lose the domain.

```

What about "We are looking for an acquisition/exit"?

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by donmcronald »

rasengan wrote: post #117
eclipsetheworld wrote: post #10

The .io TLD is owned by Ethos Capital. The same private equity company that tried to buy the .org TLD a while ago. Go figure...

Ethos Capital is run by former ICANN leadership [1]. The problem is centralized control leads to price gouging efforts. As they say you should avoid a monopoly. Some things, like domain names which are becoming the backbone of the internet, really should be owned and controlled by the commons as opposed to a single entity or dictator. We have learned this time and time again. Luckily, projects like Handshake [2] have…

How do you deal with trademark infringement and phishing with Handshake domains? I'm sure some bad actors are salivating at the idea of registering trademarked domains on the blockchain so they can extort businesses anonymously.

No one using their domains to build things is going to want to buy into a system with no legal oversight. It's only squatters, flippers, and scammers that want that system because they can extract value for doing nothing.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by donmcronald »

rvz wrote: post #267
gowld wrote: post #202

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Handshake is nowhere close to overtaking ICANN.

yet. Even Namecheap seems to offer Handshake domains. But I always get the feeling that some folks on HN seem to be consistently wrong with their projections. I wouldn't rule out these blockchain-based domain guys that quickly; since there is utility there. Unlike the other useless shitcoins I keep seeing. [0] https://www.namecheap.com/domains/handshake-domains/

Shame on Namecheap and Porkbun for scamming unsuspecting suckers.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by donmcronald »

WhyNotHugo wrote: post #103
aimor wrote: post #38

What's the reasoning or history behind why domain prices A) vary between TLDs and B) are allowed to be sold at any price (think huge markups from domain speculating)?

Once you have enough users, you can raise the price and they can't easily flee. For example, I (regrettably) have a .io domain with my own email, and moving away from it would be super painful. I'd have to make sure that I update my email *everywhere* (or risk my accounts getting hijacked), and even reach out to people with whom I communicate very infrequently. TBH, I _should_ do it, but I can image that taking aroun…

If you have a good .com that's tech themed you basically have to eat the cost on the matching .io for brand protection even if you don't use it for anything.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by donmcronald »

kmeisthax wrote: post #214
rasengan wrote: post #128

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The issue is you will always be leasing versus owning unless you use Handshake. The same entity of interest, Ethos, owns most of the generic top level domain names since they own Donuts [1]. [1] https://donuts.domains/what-we-do/top-level-domain-portfolio...

While I like the idea of using blockchain-determined name ownership; there's a few problems. First, you have the problems that you get just because of how blockchains work[0]. But moreso there are specific chicken-and-egg problems with migrating away from standard DNS: - Because DNS is well-established and everyone uses it, most websites want to be registered in DNS, and blockchain names provide little to no value to…

I think big tech and entertainment will actively fight against blockchain domains if it comes to it. Their brands are massively squatted on from what I've seen. Here's a single ETH wallet that's squatting on a solid 40 .eth domains with high value trademarks:

https://app.ens.domains/address/0x140eF05a724CA161d49ffE8D97...

Do you think `microsoft` or `disneyland` or `amazonprime` or `barclays`, etc. are going to be onboard with a system where their global brand names get zero legal protection? Not likely IMO.

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