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Re: Ask HN: What are these low quality “code snippet” sites?

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Post by jiggawatts »

christkv wrote: post #109
BLanen wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They seem to keep giving more and more confidence in their language semantic ai. Quoted words in the search should return only pages with that actually on the page. That used to work. Now it often shows pages that don't contain it all, not in the search results page itself, nor on the page when you go there. So you'd think it just ignored the quoted text and gave me results without it instead, right? Wrong. Removing…

I just want a search engine that will let me mark sites and links and let me search in that subset when I want so I can add curated sources to my little index.

“Engagement with the site is up!”

Translates to: “The users can’t find what they’re looking for, so they’re clicking around a lot.”

Re: Ask HN: What are these low quality “code snippet” sites?

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Post by snerbles »

SrslyJosh wrote: post #139
briffle wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly, change the word blacklist to censor, and then it seems wrong.

But that's not censorship. Google is not a government, and no one's speech is being suppressed by filtering out literal copies of something and leaving the original.

Censorship can be conducted by private or public entities.

https://www.aclu.org/other/what-censorship

Re: Ask HN: What are these low quality “code snippet” sites?

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Post by Terry_Roll »

ScottWRobinson wrote: post #129

For years now I've ran a programming site (stackabuse.com) and have closely followed the state of Google SERPs when it comes to programming content. A few thoughts/ramblings: - The search results for programming content has been very volatile the last year or so. Google has released a lot of core algorithm updates in the last year, which has caused a lot of high-quality sites to either lose traffic or stagnate. - The…

I've seen programming newsgroups, those things from the 90's, with what can best be described as MITM attacks having taken place when coders have been looking for solutions to problems and the solutions have not been correct. Most newsgroups were never secure so vulnerable to MITM from day 1 and what is being reported today is just the latest variation in that attack process.

I've also seen Bing & Google citing StackOverFlow and the replies in SO awarding or agreeing on a solution comes straight from this "text book" "The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies" https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

Perhaps it would be useful to dig into a posters history on a site and then decide who you trust instead of just trusting a random on the internet?

How many people have download code from SO into VS and found it doesnt even do what its purported to do? I've seen plenty of that.

Resource Burning the population, in this case programmers, is a perfectly valid technique for a variety of reasons, but the main one being, you are stuck in front of computer and that means you cant get into mischief away from work. Religions have been using that technique for hundreds of years and colloquially its know as "The devil makes work for idle hands to do" or something to that effect.

Choose carefully what you want to believe and trust.

Re: Ask HN: What are these low quality “code snippet” sites?

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Post by jrumbut »

ScottWRobinson wrote: post #129

For years now I've ran a programming site (stackabuse.com) and have closely followed the state of Google SERPs when it comes to programming content. A few thoughts/ramblings: - The search results for programming content has been very volatile the last year or so. Google has released a lot of core algorithm updates in the last year, which has caused a lot of high-quality sites to either lose traffic or stagnate. - The…

Recently I've just punted and begun searching SO and Github directly.

One thing Google has gotten really good at lately is knowing that when I search for "John Smith" I mean John Smith the baseball player not the video game character or vice-versa.

Re: Ask HN: What are these low quality “code snippet” sites?

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Post by handrous »

1_player wrote: post #86
BLanen wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They seem to keep giving more and more confidence in their language semantic ai. Quoted words in the search should return only pages with that actually on the page. That used to work. Now it often shows pages that don't contain it all, not in the search results page itself, nor on the page when you go there. So you'd think it just ignored the quoted text and gave me results without it instead, right? Wrong. Removing…

Google Search has been going downhill _fast_ over the past 5 years or so. Since it's probably incompetence rather than malice, what the heck is going on at Google Search? It seems to me the "let's use AI for everything" camp has taken over the entire place even though it's making Search worse than it ever was. And please spare me the excuse that now Google can answer questions. It can't, it just answers with snippets…

The plummet began around '08 or '09, to my recollection. It was as if, over a period of a few months, they just completely gave up trying to fight webspam shit. Simply surrendered.

Re: Ask HN: What are these low quality “code snippet” sites?

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Post by handrous »

tekstar wrote: post #123
1_player wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Search has been going downhill _fast_ over the past 5 years or so. Since it's probably incompetence rather than malice, what the heck is going on at Google Search? It seems to me the "let's use AI for everything" camp has taken over the entire place even though it's making Search worse than it ever was. And please spare me the excuse that now Google can answer questions. It can't, it just answers with snippets…

Maybe some PM realized: Worse search results -> more Google searches -> more ad views

And if the spammy, garbage pages now appearing on results page #1 also use Google ads....

Re: Ask HN: What are these low quality “code snippet” sites?

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Post by fsflover »

Rastonbury wrote: post #60

Somewhat tangential but I believe Google Search is going downhill, they seem to be losing the content junk spam SEO fight. Recently, I've had to append wiki/reddit/hn to queries I search for because everything near the top is shallow copied content marketing.

> Google Search is going downhill

Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29392702.

Re: Ask HN: What are these low quality “code snippet” sites?

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Post by dhimes »

jrumbut wrote: post #165
ScottWRobinson wrote: post #129

For years now I've ran a programming site (stackabuse.com) and have closely followed the state of Google SERPs when it comes to programming content. A few thoughts/ramblings: - The search results for programming content has been very volatile the last year or so. Google has released a lot of core algorithm updates in the last year, which has caused a lot of high-quality sites to either lose traffic or stagnate. - The…

Recently I've just punted and begun searching SO and Github directly. One thing Google has gotten really good at lately is knowing that when I search for "John Smith" I mean John Smith the baseball player not the video game character or vice-versa.

I've always just searched 'John Smith baseball' and that works well in DDG too.

Re: Ask HN: What are these low quality “code snippet” sites?

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Post by charlesdaniels »

ScottWRobinson wrote: post #129

For years now I've ran a programming site (stackabuse.com) and have closely followed the state of Google SERPs when it comes to programming content. A few thoughts/ramblings: - The search results for programming content has been very volatile the last year or so. Google has released a lot of core algorithm updates in the last year, which has caused a lot of high-quality sites to either lose traffic or stagnate. - The…

I wonder if we'll see a comeback of hand-curated directories of content? I feel like the "awesome list" trend is maybe the start of something there.

I would be willing to pay an annual fee to have access to well-curated search results with all the clickbait, blogspam, etc. filtered out.

Until then, I recommend uBlacklist[0], which allows you to hide sites by domain in the search results page for common search engines.

0 - https://github.com/iorate/uBlacklist

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