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Re: Introducing the Icelandverse [video]

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Post by UnpossibleJim »

l0k3ndr wrote: post #55

So, I am sure this video is very likeable and all. But I don't think metaverse is a total bullshit. Virtual is an experience as well. You can't for example experience flying without risk in real world and for some people experiencing those sort of things might be cheaper in the metaverse. Again I am not sure what metaverse companies are planning to form. But to me it looks like a interesting future.

I agree. It's just escapism, no different than WoW or Everquest (and yes, I'm showing my age). This time they're just attaching NFT's to the housing and goods and using Crypto to buy those virtual items.

Most people will still interact with the Metaverse on a flatscreen and not an Occulus. They'll spend money on it like they did/do on mobile games. Some people will spend WAY too much, but most people will spend $20 or so a month for an hour of escapism while they're on the bus. More if they have to be on a plane with WiFi.

Re: Introducing the Icelandverse [video]

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Post by axegon_ »

Klarios wrote: post #58
axegon_ wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure the events surrounding COVID has undone most of that progress(assuming there's any left at this point). Our survival as a species is incredibly fragile and even more so with social media facilitating propaganda and misinformation. Even in developed countries, the situation is nothing short of depressing.

I thought about this as well and I'm not sure. COVID potentially kills older and more vulnerable people. This might have reduced the burden for some people. Of course payed by death which is never good but perhaps from a statistics point of view in 10 years. I thought about this also when thinking about climate change and I think that might have a much more general bad effect. In a world with a lot of riches (tons of…

The US has a very diversified economy, which certainly limits the damages. There are countries which rely almost entirely on tourism for instance - Spain, Italy, Portugal, Croatia, Greece, they were all severely affected.

I am more pointing towards the millions out there who genuinely believe that Bill Gates is behind covid, that covid doesn't exist, that the vaccines contain microchips or are chemicals that destroy your reproductive capabilities. That substantially lowered my survival expectations as species.

Re: Introducing the Icelandverse [video]

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Post by tdeck »

iso1631 wrote: post #40
yakkomajuri wrote: post #37

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Brakes? Iceland's economy is heavily tourism-dependent. Measures were implemented for COVID but tourism is necessary. Sectors like tech are growing (as is the case everywhere else), but without tourism Iceland's economy is not far from that of the Faroe Islands: fish, fish, and more fish. (P.S. I live in Iceland) EDIT: There are movements towards more sustainable tourism, however.

I thought there was some banking stuff going on - how did that work out?

Is this a genuine question or the ultimate troll comment?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%932011_Icelandic_fi...

Re: Introducing the Icelandverse [video]

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Post by trutannus »

tdeck wrote: post #63
iso1631 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought there was some banking stuff going on - how did that work out?

Is this a genuine question or the ultimate troll comment? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%932011_Icelandic_fi...

I was going to comment on this also. The post you're replying to would be like someone saying "isn't a major energy company failing over in the states" when they mean Enron. Iceland managed to completely recover and is now one of the richest countries (per capita) in the world.

That said, I've always seen people try and stir up a strange amount of FUD whenever a Nordic nation is mentioned. FUDing Americans about Scandinavia is practically a sport at this point.

I'm half expecting the mythical Swedish gang war, or rape crisis, to be brought up in reply to this comment. Go do some research on reporting techniques and legal definitions first if you're about to 'well actually' me on that.

Re: Introducing the Icelandverse [video]

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

axegon_ wrote: post #19

I know this is supposed to mock the metaverse-thing. And the first time I heard about the metaverse, my reaction was: "what a colossal pile of dog shit". My opinion hasn't changed even the slightest. Like why? What sort of sane human beings would put themselves through that? I had this discussion with a friend on Sunday. The sad part is that he agrees with me but said that he was willing to bet that people would blow…

My first reaction when I heard 'Facebook' becoming 'Meta' was "One of my favorite word in my frequently used vocabulary would now be second guessed before using"; Every now and then I used to dream of establishing small meta-science labs in India like Meta-Physics, Meta-Chemistry... Now it's going to be weird to dream about it.

More urgently, I'm worried "meta" hyperlink on my forum would be ignored by my visitors thinking it's just a link to Facebook; Where as it's an link to meta discussions about the platform.

Re: Introducing the Icelandverse [video]

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Post by simonebrunozzi »

axegon_ wrote: post #19

I know this is supposed to mock the metaverse-thing. And the first time I heard about the metaverse, my reaction was: "what a colossal pile of dog shit". My opinion hasn't changed even the slightest. Like why? What sort of sane human beings would put themselves through that? I had this discussion with a friend on Sunday. The sad part is that he agrees with me but said that he was willing to bet that people would blow…

Or, maybe, the $600k virtual yacht is a stunt, organized by insiders, to convince someone else to pour huge amounts of money in that particular currency.

Re: Introducing the Icelandverse [video]

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Post by meheleventyone »

vmception wrote: post #56
meheleventyone wrote: post #53

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When someone chucks $600k into an NFT from dollars for some virtual land I'll be much more likely to believe that it's actually worth that (to the individual) if it's demonstrably not a wash trade. And 'or nearest bid' is doing a lot of work. Lots of NFTs out there with a big disparity between bid amounts and asking price.

spend 2 minutes on an NFT marketplace? there are many trades between addresses that have registered aliases via ENS, which is the best way to determine if something is not a wash trade. Noteworthy is that you are starting from the opinion that things are wash trades, while the NFT users are not, and given the amount of energy necessary to support this opinion from someone not even participating it makes me wonder if…

Really no need when people actively research the field and we can see on aggregate what's really happening. Full transaction logs are useful for like that. And surprise, surprise: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-00053-8

Re: Introducing the Icelandverse [video]

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Post by vmception »

meheleventyone wrote: post #68
vmception wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

spend 2 minutes on an NFT marketplace? there are many trades between addresses that have registered aliases via ENS, which is the best way to determine if something is not a wash trade. Noteworthy is that you are starting from the opinion that things are wash trades, while the NFT users are not, and given the amount of energy necessary to support this opinion from someone not even participating it makes me wonder if…

Really no need when people actively research the field and we can see on aggregate what's really happening. Full transaction logs are useful for like that. And surprise, surprise: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-00053-8

What is intended to be the surprise there? That it acts just like the fine art world?

This discussion was about prices are driven significantly by wash trades and that paper doesn’t suggest or imply that.

Re: Introducing the Icelandverse [video]

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Post by meheleventyone »

vmception wrote: post #69
meheleventyone wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really no need when people actively research the field and we can see on aggregate what's really happening. Full transaction logs are useful for like that. And surprise, surprise: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-00053-8

What is intended to be the surprise there? That it acts just like the fine art world? This discussion was about prices are driven significantly by wash trades and that paper doesn’t suggest or imply that.

We have very different ideas about what this thread of discussion was about!
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