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Re: Ask HN: What are these low quality “code snippet” sites?

#81

Somewhat tangential but I believe Google Search is going downhill, they seem to be losing the content junk spam SEO fight. Recently, I've had to append wiki/reddit/hn to queries I search for because everything near the top is shallow copied content marketing.

Here's an alternative explanation: the quality of the content has gotten worse. Everyone and their mother is doing SEO now. They're trying to maximize clicks, not quality content.

Re: Ask HN: What are these low quality “code snippet” sites?

#82

Somewhat tangential but I believe Google Search is going downhill, they seem to be losing the content junk spam SEO fight. Recently, I've had to append wiki/reddit/hn to queries I search for because everything near the top is shallow copied content marketing.

They seem to keep giving more and more confidence in their language semantic ai.

Quoted words in the search should return only pages with that actually on the page. That used to work. Now it often shows pages that don't contain it all, not in the search results page itself, nor on the page when you go there. So you'd think it just ignored the quoted text and gave me results without it instead, right? Wrong. Removing the quoted text to either unquoted text or removing it entirely both result in different results. So it DOES process the quotes SOMEHOW. But it's not a clear RULE because probably it's also just processed as an input to the semantics engine. Just tell me you don't have any pages with the text instead, please. Which it actually also some sometimes...

It's an unfixable mess. And I don't think this can be turned back. Building a competitor costs hundreds of billions. A competitor will likely end up taking the same approach anyway.

I just wanted a list of google's big search engine updates but even searching this I get SEO-d blogspam ABOUT THE SEO IMPACT OF THE UPDATES.

Re: Ask HN: What are these low quality “code snippet” sites?

#83
Scrape-paste is one of the easiest way to make significant money, if it takes off, and that’s why these sites are made.

I think, google does well in general with coding or SO questions, but will show you these low quality sites when the questions are new or very specific and difficult to answer. Maybe, time to apply your head more.

*been on both sides

Re: Ask HN: What are these low quality “code snippet” sites?

#85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they seem to be losing the content junk spam SEO fight Google clearly isn't even trying. So many of these sites are polluting search results for months. It isn't a case of sites that pop up for a few hours until Google notices and blacklists them. Google Search has gone so far downhill. I'm not sure what they're optimising for. Long-term irrelevance, it seems.

Well I think you already nailed it with “not even trying”. You don’t need to try or optimize when you’re a monopoly. Competition forces that function, but a lack thereof enables mediocrity and complacency.

One of the problems with things like this is how do you know which site has copied from another, especially if you don't want a list of hard-coded exceptions.

Related is if you have a lot of content from git repositories that are mirrored from different locations (GitHub, GitLab, etc.), all of which are showing the same content. Or if different sites are hosting versions of public domain texts. You don't want to derank those results, even if they are similar to the "copy a popular site" websites.

Re: Ask HN: What are these low quality “code snippet” sites?

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post #82

Somewhat tangential but I believe Google Search is going downhill, they seem to be losing the content junk spam SEO fight. Recently, I've had to append wiki/reddit/hn to queries I search for because everything near the top is shallow copied content marketing.

They seem to keep giving more and more confidence in their language semantic ai. Quoted words in the search should return only pages with that actually on the page. That used to work. Now it often shows pages that don't contain it all, not in the search results page itself, nor on the page when you go there. So you'd think it just ignored the quoted text and gave me results without it instead, right? Wrong. Removing…

Google Search has been going downhill _fast_ over the past 5 years or so. Since it's probably incompetence rather than malice, what the heck is going on at Google Search? It seems to me the "let's use AI for everything" camp has taken over the entire place even though it's making Search worse than it ever was.

And please spare me the excuse that now Google can answer questions. It can't, it just answers with snippets extracted from websites it deems relevant, and often the answer is flat out wrong or irrelevant.

I just hope the ML/AI mania that has taken over these big tech companies proves to be a fad that just goes nowhere like it did in the 70s and we return to plain old algorithms and good software engineering.

Re: Ask HN: What are these low quality “code snippet” sites?

#87

Somewhat tangential but I believe Google Search is going downhill, they seem to be losing the content junk spam SEO fight. Recently, I've had to append wiki/reddit/hn to queries I search for because everything near the top is shallow copied content marketing.

> they seem to be losing the content junk spam SEO fight Google clearly isn't even trying. So many of these sites are polluting search results for months. It isn't a case of sites that pop up for a few hours until Google notices and blacklists them. Google Search has gone so far downhill. I'm not sure what they're optimising for. Long-term irrelevance, it seems.

Is it legally a good idea for Google to go and blacklist individual sites?

Re: Ask HN: What are these low quality “code snippet” sites?

#88

IMHO the biggest offender: https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/ They are making me insane with the modal login demand. I wonder if Google has downgraded the authoritative standing of StackOverflow?

you can use UBO element zapper, but i recommend staying away from that site except for leetcode type questions. The content quality is mixed at best.

Re: Ask HN: What are these low quality “code snippet” sites?

#89

IMHO the biggest offender: https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/ They are making me insane with the modal login demand. I wonder if Google has downgraded the authoritative standing of StackOverflow?

Do they not have original content? I'm always frustrated when I click too fast and land on geeksforgeeks.org, because their code examples are so low quality and without explanations.

I didn't notice SO being this bad.

Re: Ask HN: What are these low quality “code snippet” sites?

#90

Somewhat tangential but I believe Google Search is going downhill, they seem to be losing the content junk spam SEO fight. Recently, I've had to append wiki/reddit/hn to queries I search for because everything near the top is shallow copied content marketing.

I also a lot of strange domains (.it, .so) and tangential related domainnames. Clicking it gives a really weird content scraped jumble that seems AI generated. My malware extension also went on alert. And this is in the top ten in a search result!
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