For me, not having good domains available of hoarding is a bigger problem than paying $55/year. I'm glad there is a TLD that is useful and expensive.
Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)
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Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)
#142Any perspective on the best TLDs for startups? .com is obviously the preferred choice, but from my perspective these are the next best picks: - .io for B2B, SAAS, etc. startups. Occasionally makes sense for B2C (itch.io, etc.) Seems to be falling out of fashion, though. - .ai is the top choice for ML-based startups. These are really hot now. - .dev for the occasional SAAS or library. Doesn't make sense B2C. - .app if…
The stupidity of thinking what "the best TLD for your startup" is. In the meantime all respectable startups and big companies use .com like normal people.
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Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)
#143The .io TLD is owned by Ethos Capital. The same private equity company that tried to buy the .org TLD a while ago. Go figure...
From their website: "OUR ETHOS Drive prosperity for all stakeholders We believe that long-term success is best accomplished through a thriving ecosystem in which prosperity is shared amongst all stakeholders." [1] Bullshit, they exist to squeeze every little penny left in a company out and then dump the hollowed out remains on the stock market to die. [1] https://ethoscapital.com/about-us/
Well they obviously mean that those 'stakeholders' are their shareholders.
Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)
#144A reminder: just because you don't see any meaningful activities happening on www., don't assume that the owner is domain squatting. Folks make use of their domains in a variety of ways, not just for hosting a website on www.
Exactly. I use it for email
Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)
#145The .io TLD is owned by Ethos Capital. The same private equity company that tried to buy the .org TLD a while ago. Go figure...
Ethos Capital has a mortgage operation. My experience with them lead me to the conclusion that their name does not imply "ethical".
What is scary is that Ethos Capital is made up entirely of ICANN affiliates. In other words, these are the same people that govern our domain names.
Pretty fucked up if you ask me. They are also going around buying up basically every major TLD.
Lease with ICANN and be subject to their price gouging forever or own with Handshake, the only thing ICANN is afraid of [1], and never pay again.
[1] https://www.icann.org/en/blogs/details/buyer-beware-not-all-...
Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
At this point, there are many alternative gTLDs that can be used for personal sites, and quite a few are super cheap. Maybe the squatters will catch up and eventually buy them all up but for now there's a decent availability.
The problem is that if you are already on .io (or another domain that increases the price) moving to another TLD means breaking all incoming links, email addresses, etc. Not really a good option.
You pay the max rent now, that buy 10 years, to price-lock, then begin the slog.
Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)
#147Why .io domains are so popular?
I/O is used frequently in tech as an acronym for Input/Output. I suppose that's why it's popular for techy stuff like SaaS providers and such. It's also a moon of Jupiter which adds to the nerdgasm.
Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is the same problem as land value tax that was never solved.
It's solved in some [rather left leaning] countries. When you buy land you must put it to use, and if it's unused after X years, it's considered abandoned and it goes up for sale again. TBH, I think it's a solid model -- buying a finite resource like land merely with the intent to deprive others of it and make a profit in the long term is as unethical as it gets. Though completely legal is most places, of course.
With land, not using it is the equivalent to a privately funded conservation site. Its not necessarily a bad thing.
Many capitalistic countries also have adverse possession laws, where if someone uses the land for X number of years, it becomes theirs.
Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)
#149How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.
> How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site?
The simplest solution would be to revoke domains with domain parking pages on them.
If the domain contains an offer to sell the domain, you lose the domain.
That wouldn't solve 100% of the problem, but it would solve 80% of the problem, and that's better than what we have.
Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)
#150Any perspective on the best TLDs for startups? .com is obviously the preferred choice, but from my perspective these are the next best picks: - .io for B2B, SAAS, etc. startups. Occasionally makes sense for B2C (itch.io, etc.) Seems to be falling out of fashion, though. - .ai is the top choice for ML-based startups. These are really hot now. - .dev for the occasional SAAS or library. Doesn't make sense B2C. - .app if…
.so and .co are popular when .io and .ai are taken.
Somalia? Isn't there a risk of the government collapsing (further)?
Though British Indian Ocean Territory has a risk of the territory disappearing. Colombia and Anguilla should stay around.