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Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by pqb »

bxparks wrote: post #53
TonyBagODonuts wrote: post #3

My .com renewal was $14, namecheap.

Cloudflare Registrar is "at cost". Hard to get cheaper than that.

Hmm, it made me thinking that there is one more way to get it cheaper than $8 - use "value of the currency". There are many EU countries with inflation problems, where you can buy domains using their local currency - for example PLN. Currently, 8 USD is worth 32.56 PLN [0]. There are few registrars where you can get .com for 30.99 PLN [1], which is a bit cheaper than $8.

[0]: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=8+USD+to+...

[1]: https://www.ovhcloud.com/pl/domains/tld/com/

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by pawelk »

snarf21 wrote: post #57
cj wrote: post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

You have to increase the yearly renewal even more (imo). $120/year is only $10 a month. That is two coffees at Starbucks. If that is too expensive for your legitimate non-commercial purpose, then you probably don't really need a domain. Yeah, some squatters may still try the long game but it starts to get cost prohibitive. The hope would be that if it is expensive enough, the squatters may only hold the most likely T…

> coffees at Starbucks

I hate this argument. All the small fees priced in "Starbucks coffees" add up quickly and all of a sudden running a personal website to share one's hobby dries up the monthly coffee budget and then some. Then there's the fact that a significant part of the world lives on a single US Starbucks coffee per day.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by teekert »

I like how the .nl tld in the Netherlands is managed by the non-profit SIDN [0]. They are dedicated to an open internet, and they make sure that I can very easily move my domain between (hosting) providers for example (and indeed it was easy to transfer from transip to vimexx for me). They are truly independent. It's how it should be if you ask me. When I read about the .org issues and now .io, I'm happy with my .nl domain, for personal use.

[0]: https://www.sidn.nl/en/about-sidn/what-we-stand-for

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

A while ago I went on a shopping spree buying domains with the name of our project in various TLDs. I did consider .io, but decided to pass at $29 registration price. Now I'm glad I did, because while the money aren't great, I would have had to drop this domain on a principle. You know, to stick it to them!

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by cle »

eclipsetheworld wrote: post #10

The .io TLD is owned by Ethos Capital. The same private equity company that tried to buy the .org TLD a while ago. Go figure...

Ethos later acquired a controlling interest in Donuts (Jan 2021), who acquired Afilias (Nov 2020), who is the service provider for the .org TLD. The "operator" is still the Public Internet Registry, but from my understanding Ethos now controls the company that effectively runs the .org infrastructure.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by kergonath »

snarf21 wrote: post #57
cj wrote: post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

You have to increase the yearly renewal even more (imo). $120/year is only $10 a month. That is two coffees at Starbucks. If that is too expensive for your legitimate non-commercial purpose, then you probably don't really need a domain. Yeah, some squatters may still try the long game but it starts to get cost prohibitive. The hope would be that if it is expensive enough, the squatters may only hold the most likely T…

As the owner of a couple of domains (not .io, but these aren’t the only ones that go up in price in January) with no commercial use whatsoever, I am very happy to learn that you have decided that I should not get one. You sound exactly like those landlords who think it’s all jolly good when the average rent goes up at twice the inflation rate.

In the meantime, we got those domains because we use them, and not all of us actually get 2 Starbucks a month. The price going up 30% without any recourse and with a 1 month notice is a sad joke. We cannot seem to trust private interests with the management of public resources.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by cblconfederate »

echelon wrote: post #19
TonyBagODonuts wrote: post #3

My .com renewal was $14, namecheap.

The problem with .com is that it is both popular and heavily squatted. You'll potentially need to use a non-English word or two or more words to describe your business or website. .io is still squatted, but much easier game. And it makes sense in our field. As an example, I wanted a common English word name for my startup. The .com is owned by a squatting firm that balked at a $1M dollar offer. They want eight figure…

But if you re successful you ll inevitably need to buy the .com . Why not skip this unnecessary trouble

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by rasengan »

vmoore wrote: post #119

Long time buyer of random domains here. Over the years I've heard reports of people trying to get back their ccTLD because they weren't a citizen of that country and had to fight back-and-forth to reclaim their domain, oftentimes handing ownership of the domain over to a trusted citizen of that country so they can keep their domain. This is why I don't build important stuff on a ccTLD and go for generic ones like .cl…

The issue is you will always be leasing versus owning unless you use Handshake. The same entity of interest, Ethos, owns most of the generic top level domain names since they own Donuts [1].

[1] https://donuts.domains/what-we-do/top-level-domain-portfolio...

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by authed »

teekert wrote: post #123

I like how the .nl tld in the Netherlands is managed by the non-profit SIDN [0]. They are dedicated to an open internet, and they make sure that I can very easily move my domain between (hosting) providers for example (and indeed it was easy to transfer from transip to vimexx for me). They are truly independent. It's how it should be if you ask me. When I read about the .org issues and now .io, I'm happy with my .nl…

> and they make sure that I can very easily move my domain between (hosting) providers

Is it so easy that I could "do it for you"?

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