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Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The stupidity of thinking what "the best TLD for your startup" is. In the meantime all respectable startups and big companies use .com like normal people.

Ah yes, branding is "stupid" now. Gotcha.

I think the GPs point is that anything other than .com is stupid branding. Not that branding is stupid.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

At this point, there are many alternative gTLDs that can be used for personal sites, and quite a few are super cheap. Maybe the squatters will catch up and eventually buy them all up but for now there's a decent availability.

The problem is that if you are already on .io (or another domain that increases the price) moving to another TLD means breaking all incoming links, email addresses, etc. Not really a good option.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

You have to increase the yearly renewal even more (imo). $120/year is only $10 a month. That is two coffees at Starbucks. If that is too expensive for your legitimate non-commercial purpose, then you probably don't really need a domain. Yeah, some squatters may still try the long game but it starts to get cost prohibitive. The hope would be that if it is expensive enough, the squatters may only hold the most likely T…

That's a very US-centric view. There are many countries in the world where median wages are below $1000/month, and then $10/month is 1% of your income, which is a significant expense.

Increasing the price even further means that people from poor countries won't be able to afford domains (at least not a .io or .com), and this is bad for the open web, because it means that fan forums move to Reddit or Discord, small businesses move to Facebook and WeChat, and so on, until all content is inside these walled gardens instead of the open web.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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The .io TLD is owned by Ethos Capital. The same private equity company that tried to buy the .org TLD a while ago. Go figure...

Wasn't it owned by Internet Computer Bureau (ICB)? Regardless, the British government profited off of the .io domain while it rightfully belonged to the Chagossians of British Indian Ocean Territory. https://gigaom.com/2014/06/30/the-dark-side-of-io-how-the-u-...

As far as I can tell, the British government has officially claimed not to have been paid anything from the .io registrar.

Despite the registrar claiming it deposited some amount into accounts for each territorial party they were ostensibly operating on the behalf of.

So, someone's lying.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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The .io TLD is owned by Ethos Capital. The same private equity company that tried to buy the .org TLD a while ago. Go figure...

According to their website, they do not own .io https://donuts.domains/what-we-do/top-level-domain-portfolio...

https://ethoscapital.com/portfolio/ Afilias does

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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The .io TLD is owned by Ethos Capital. The same private equity company that tried to buy the .org TLD a while ago. Go figure...

Ethos Capital is run by former ICANN leadership [1].

The problem is centralized control leads to price gouging efforts. As they say you should avoid a monopoly.

Some things, like domain names which are becoming the backbone of the internet, really should be owned and controlled by the commons as opposed to a single entity or dictator.

We have learned this time and time again.

Luckily, projects like Handshake [2] have basically overtaken ICANN to the extent they are issuing messages in fear [3] and engaging in last ditch efforts to fatten their pockets.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethos_Capital

[2] https://handshake.org

[3] https://www.icann.org/en/blogs/details/buyer-beware-not-all-...

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Build an amazing app/platform/service. Host it on whatever tld is cheaper/convenient/some_other_criteria. No one will care what the extension is - especially with current and upcoming consumption models (mobile apps, vr/ar, and so on).

You can always find a suitable .com domain, which is at the top of the squatting pecking order. Just need to be creative and flexible

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Long time buyer of random domains here. Over the years I've heard reports of people trying to get back their ccTLD because they weren't a citizen of that country and had to fight back-and-forth to reclaim their domain, oftentimes handing ownership of the domain over to a trusted citizen of that country so they can keep their domain.

This is why I don't build important stuff on a ccTLD and go for generic ones like .club .party etc. In my country, I have a single ccTLD that I registered with a passport scan and had to verify my legal name with the registrar, which is good because I don't have to fight to get it back in a rug-pull scenario.

I don't have anything too important on it, just a few links to projects I worked on, and a contact page. The domain price could be hiked at any moment so I don't take the domain too seriously. (I've often thought of just not renewing it, and retiring it).

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

#120

It might be helpful to look at this as a percentage change- it looks like they were currently charging $42.18/year as the standard price (1), so this is a 30% price increase. (1) https://news.gandi.net/en/2021/10/enjoy-our-io-promotion-bef...

As another commenter pointed out they already raised the price a year ago - sot this is a 30% YOY increase.
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