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Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

I thought domain squatting violated US law? Is there some loophole or is paying just cheaper/quicker?

Not as far as I know. I worked for a while for a company whose main business was squatting and throwing up ads on the pages. At least I worked for the part of the company that was trying other revenue models like lead generation although LG is of only slightly greater social value.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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post #60
post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

My thought is to require all domains be sold for the same set price (or at least constant for each TLD). If someone wants to register 1,000 domains let them, but don't allow them to profit off that. If someone breaks the rule, revoke the domain. I'd like to hear reasons why this is a bad idea so I can stop thinking about it every time I get priced out.

That sounds totally unenforceable. ICANN doesn't have the resources to investigate in detail allegations that a domain was sold for more than face value. And certainly, nobody involved in such a sale will have incentives to report it, under normal circumstances.

Also, most desirable names would not be put to productive use since there'd be no relationship between what you can do with a name and how likely you are to get it, though this is a handwavier point.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

#94

The .io TLD is owned by Ethos Capital. The same private equity company that tried to buy the .org TLD a while ago. Go figure...

According to their website, they do not own .io

https://donuts.domains/what-we-do/top-level-domain-portfolio...

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

#95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From their website: "OUR ETHOS Drive prosperity for all stakeholders We believe that long-term success is best accomplished through a thriving ecosystem in which prosperity is shared amongst all stakeholders." [1] Bullshit, they exist to squeeze every little penny left in a company out and then dump the hollowed out remains on the stock market to die. [1] https://ethoscapital.com/about-us/

Who exactly are you quoting? Or did you pull a completely random quote from somewhere off the internet solely in order to grind your axe in a vaguely related discussion thread?

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Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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post #58

The last time I suggested domains should be NFT's managed by a DAO i got a boat load of downvotes. But you have to admit, ENS's community governance model is superior to this. Its nice that domain owners have a vote in decision making process, where as here the community has no say at all.

> ENS's community governance model is superior to this.

ENS is no different and it is just you registering a .eth subdomain (collides with Ethiopia's three letter reserved TLD) in a decentralised blockchain but is on a centralised root with the key-holders sitting on a DAO.

The fact that 'trust' is involved is the vulnerability with these DAOs.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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post #40
post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

This is the same problem as land value tax that was never solved.

It's solved in some [rather left leaning] countries. When you buy land you must put it to use, and if it's unused after X years, it's considered abandoned and it goes up for sale again.

TBH, I think it's a solid model -- buying a finite resource like land merely with the intent to deprive others of it and make a profit in the long term is as unethical as it gets. Though completely legal is most places, of course.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

I believe we should be using the term "Domain Scalping" rather than "Domain Squatting". At the most basic level, it re-frames the problem.
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