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Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by andruby »

aimor wrote: post #60
cj wrote: post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

My thought is to require all domains be sold for the same set price (or at least constant for each TLD). If someone wants to register 1,000 domains let them, but don't allow them to profit off that. If someone breaks the rule, revoke the domain. I'd like to hear reasons why this is a bad idea so I can stop thinking about it every time I get priced out.

that seems like a nightmare to check. if 100 parties want to buy a specific domain from me (say: database.io), the incentive to sugar the deal will be huge. Why wouldn't I sell it to the party that'll gift me a Tesla when I sell them the domain for the fixed price?

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by Cerium »

eclipsetheworld wrote: post #10

The .io TLD is owned by Ethos Capital. The same private equity company that tried to buy the .org TLD a while ago. Go figure...

Ethos Capital has a mortgage operation. My experience with them lead me to the conclusion that their name does not imply "ethical".

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by Yeri »

vadfa wrote: post #8
echelon wrote: post #2

Any perspective on the best TLDs for startups? .com is obviously the preferred choice, but from my perspective these are the next best picks: - .io for B2B, SAAS, etc. startups. Occasionally makes sense for B2C (itch.io, etc.) Seems to be falling out of fashion, though. - .ai is the top choice for ML-based startups. These are really hot now. - .dev for the occasional SAAS or library. Doesn't make sense B2C. - .app if…

The stupidity of thinking what "the best TLD for your startup" is. In the meantime all respectable startups and big companies use .com like normal people.

Likely because 'respectable startups' (with money) can afford to buy the .com.

https://www.arbo.works/ is a new, and very respected startup. They don't have a .com (yet).

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by plastic_bag »

eclipsetheworld wrote: post #10

The .io TLD is owned by Ethos Capital. The same private equity company that tried to buy the .org TLD a while ago. Go figure...

Wasn't it owned by Internet Computer Bureau (ICB)?

Regardless, the British government profited off of the .io domain while it rightfully belonged to the Chagossians of British Indian Ocean Territory.

https://gigaom.com/2014/06/30/the-dark-side-of-io-how-the-u-...

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by missedthecue »

sschueller wrote: post #77
eclipsetheworld wrote: post #10

The .io TLD is owned by Ethos Capital. The same private equity company that tried to buy the .org TLD a while ago. Go figure...

From their website: "OUR ETHOS Drive prosperity for all stakeholders We believe that long-term success is best accomplished through a thriving ecosystem in which prosperity is shared amongst all stakeholders." [1] Bullshit, they exist to squeeze every little penny left in a company out and then dump the hollowed out remains on the stock market to die. [1] https://ethoscapital.com/about-us/

Who exactly are you quoting? Or did you pull a completely random quote from somewhere off the internet solely in order to grind your axe in a vaguely related discussion thread?

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by dhosek »

orangepanda wrote: post #70
cj wrote: post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

How about hiding the address bar? Would make domain names irrelevant

Not all navigation is through links.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by bliteben »

snarf21 wrote: post #57
cj wrote: post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

You have to increase the yearly renewal even more (imo). $120/year is only $10 a month. That is two coffees at Starbucks. If that is too expensive for your legitimate non-commercial purpose, then you probably don't really need a domain. Yeah, some squatters may still try the long game but it starts to get cost prohibitive. The hope would be that if it is expensive enough, the squatters may only hold the most likely T…

Some of the best sites on the internet are run for less than $120/year.

> This squatting is the same reason we need a LVT on land to prevent people from squatting on property that could be developed to provide housing.

Yes because private property all exists to become housing.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Post by WhyNotHugo »

cj wrote: post #15

How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

In some countries, if you want to register a domain that's parked, you may appeal to the registrar, and they will take it away from the parker (unless they're legitimately planning to use it).

The conditions of use of the domain state that you will give them _some_ use. "Planning to resell it" it is not considered a valid use. It's a public resource after all.

As an analogy, imagine someone buys all the housing in town, just wanting to re-sell them at a higher price just because they bought them first. It's an obvious case for consumer protection to step in -- otherwise it's just angry mobs. Well, not in some countries.

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