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Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The stupidity of thinking what "the best TLD for your startup" is. In the meantime all respectable startups and big companies use .com like normal people.

That's an odd comment to me. Different TLDs have different pricing, different restrictions, and so on. Giving the topic some thought isn't stupid. And .com is a pretty crowded namespace.

>different pricing

.com is the cheapest

>different restrictions

.com has the fewest

Anything else?

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Build an amazing app/platform/service. Host it on whatever tld is cheaper/convenient/some_other_criteria. No one will care what the extension is - especially with current and upcoming consumption models (mobile apps, vr/ar, and so on).

> No one will care what the extension is Until you try to send emails from your random TLD domain and they all end up in spam. Or when your shitty TLD has a NIC-level DNS outage. (.club had one a few weeks ago for instance, experienced it firsthand.) Or no outage, but resolves slowly.

Company: oefrha-galactic-corporation.com

Project: oefrha-super-app.${something}

One owns the other. Useful for running multiple experiments at once, though shifting to a different structure is better (imho) if the experiment is succesful.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Any perspective on the best TLDs for startups? .com is obviously the preferred choice, but from my perspective these are the next best picks: - .io for B2B, SAAS, etc. startups. Occasionally makes sense for B2C (itch.io, etc.) Seems to be falling out of fashion, though. - .ai is the top choice for ML-based startups. These are really hot now. - .dev for the occasional SAAS or library. Doesn't make sense B2C. - .app if…

Not for a startup, but .codes is pretty nice for personal or portfolio websites.

My personal website uses .one

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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What's the reasoning or history behind why domain prices A) vary between TLDs and B) are allowed to be sold at any price (think huge markups from domain speculating)?

There were always different entities in charge of different TLDs. ICANN, for example, has no leverage over CCTLDs. Basically because "no central authority". Then, within a TLD, some allow resellers, so competition.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

You have to increase the yearly renewal even more (imo). $120/year is only $10 a month. That is two coffees at Starbucks. If that is too expensive for your legitimate non-commercial purpose, then you probably don't really need a domain. Yeah, some squatters may still try the long game but it starts to get cost prohibitive. The hope would be that if it is expensive enough, the squatters may only hold the most likely TLDs for a specific domain instead of holding all of them at almost no risk. I also think that we can extend this by adding lots and lots of new TLDs. Yeah, the single word domains will get snapped right up but the space becomes ever bigger and harder to corner the market. We could also make a rule that when there is a new TLD, that existing domain holders from the longest lived TLDs get first right of refusal. So if ".cars" is added, Ford would get the first shot at ford.cars

This squatting is the same reason we need a LVT on land to prevent people from squatting on property that could be developed to provide housing.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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The last time I suggested domains should be NFT's managed by a DAO i got a boat load of downvotes. But you have to admit, ENS's community governance model is superior to this. Its nice that domain owners have a vote in decision making process, where as here the community has no say at all.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with .com is that it is both popular and heavily squatted. You'll potentially need to use a non-English word or two or more words to describe your business or website. .io is still squatted, but much easier game. And it makes sense in our field. As an example, I wanted a common English word name for my startup. The .com is owned by a squatting firm that balked at a $1M dollar offer. They want eight figure…

Wait, people lease domain names? Is that common? Doesn't that violate the TOS you agreed to with your registrar?

Perfectly legal. I know $100 billion dollar companies that lease domains. (I don't think I'm allowed to disclose further.)

It would be foolish to do anything except redirect though.

Re: Price increase on .io domains on January 1, 2022 (Renewal: $55.00)

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How do we create an incentive model that kills the “parked domain” industry without out pricing people who want to host a legitimate non-commercial personal site? At first glance I was happy to see the headline because it means it’ll be more expensive for squatters to profit, but then I do sympathize with people using these domains for legitimate non-commercial purposes.

My thought is to require all domains be sold for the same set price (or at least constant for each TLD). If someone wants to register 1,000 domains let them, but don't allow them to profit off that. If someone breaks the rule, revoke the domain. I'd like to hear reasons why this is a bad idea so I can stop thinking about it every time I get priced out.
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