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Re: Introducing the Icelandverse [video]

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Post by arno_v »

ljm wrote: post #26
axegon_ wrote: post #19

I know this is supposed to mock the metaverse-thing. And the first time I heard about the metaverse, my reaction was: "what a colossal pile of dog shit". My opinion hasn't changed even the slightest. Like why? What sort of sane human beings would put themselves through that? I had this discussion with a friend on Sunday. The sad part is that he agrees with me but said that he was willing to bet that people would blow…

In many aspects we've entered a post-scarcity society, to the extent that scarcity has to be invented by things like NFTs. For these people, they might as well have found a game breaking bug in the thing we call existence. Of course, it would be nice if we got more of humanity on board with this first, what with the vast majority of the population being in poverty, or worse.

Have you tried to buy a new GPU recently? :P

Re: Introducing the Icelandverse [video]

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Post by EvanAnderson »

thewarrior wrote: post #29
ljm wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In many aspects we've entered a post-scarcity society, to the extent that scarcity has to be invented by things like NFTs. For these people, they might as well have found a game breaking bug in the thing we call existence. Of course, it would be nice if we got more of humanity on board with this first, what with the vast majority of the population being in poverty, or worse.

How can we be in post scarcity if millions of people are in poverty?

It's another case of the future not being evenly distributed[0], presumably.

[0] https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/681-the-future-is-already-h...

Re: Introducing the Icelandverse [video]

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Post by vmception »

meheleventyone wrote: post #24
axegon_ wrote: post #19

I know this is supposed to mock the metaverse-thing. And the first time I heard about the metaverse, my reaction was: "what a colossal pile of dog shit". My opinion hasn't changed even the slightest. Like why? What sort of sane human beings would put themselves through that? I had this discussion with a friend on Sunday. The sad part is that he agrees with me but said that he was willing to bet that people would blow…

Thing to remember is that’s 600k of crypto which has probably never been “real” money and may well have been a wash trade anyway. It’s not overly clear to me that it’d be easy to get that nominal value out as USD from the crypto original either. So you see ridiculous, inflated, purchases made. It’s a bit like EVE Online where the existence of PLEX allows for a conversion between USD and the in-game currency ISK and h…

It is just giving some transparency into things that have already been happening

Didn’t know people spent that much? Companies selling collectibles and companies selling play 2 earn stuff knew

Re: Introducing the Icelandverse [video]

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Post by axegon_ »

thewarrior wrote: post #29
ljm wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In many aspects we've entered a post-scarcity society, to the extent that scarcity has to be invented by things like NFTs. For these people, they might as well have found a game breaking bug in the thing we call existence. Of course, it would be nice if we got more of humanity on board with this first, what with the vast majority of the population being in poverty, or worse.

How can we be in post scarcity if millions of people are in poverty?

Well we have two worlds running in parallel as we stand: Most of North America, Europe and certain parts of Asia and the rest of the world. A large portion of what I refereed to "the rest of the world" is as distant from us as the middle ages. Not even apples to oranges at this point. Sure, you could argue that billions are poured into bridging that gap but the simple truth is that never works. Even if there wasn't an insane amount of corruption involved, that still would not cut it or change much: I had a professor back in the day who summed it up perfectly in one sentence: "No one has gotten out of poverty through charity". Though I absolutely adore Hans Rosling's "Factfullness", somehow I cannot find a way to share his optimism. And in his function as a doctor, I recon even he would have dialed down his optimism if he were alive now and witnessed how COVID was being handled for example.

Re: Introducing the Icelandverse [video]

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Post by yakkomajuri »

JohnWhigham wrote: post #36

I thought Iceland was looking to put the brakes on the influx of tourists they're getting? This does not help that.

Brakes? Iceland's economy is heavily tourism-dependent. Measures were implemented for COVID but tourism is necessary.

Sectors like tech are growing (as is the case everywhere else), but without tourism Iceland's economy is not far from that of the Faroe Islands: fish, fish, and more fish.

(P.S. I live in Iceland)

EDIT: There are movements towards more sustainable tourism, however.

Re: Introducing the Icelandverse [video]

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Post by CPLX »

ljm wrote: post #26
axegon_ wrote: post #19

I know this is supposed to mock the metaverse-thing. And the first time I heard about the metaverse, my reaction was: "what a colossal pile of dog shit". My opinion hasn't changed even the slightest. Like why? What sort of sane human beings would put themselves through that? I had this discussion with a friend on Sunday. The sad part is that he agrees with me but said that he was willing to bet that people would blow…

In many aspects we've entered a post-scarcity society, to the extent that scarcity has to be invented by things like NFTs. For these people, they might as well have found a game breaking bug in the thing we call existence. Of course, it would be nice if we got more of humanity on board with this first, what with the vast majority of the population being in poverty, or worse.

Why does everyone act like this is some massive cultural shift or new phenomenon instead of the latest representation of one of humanity’s favorite pastimes.

It’s gambling. People have done it for millennia. You invent some system and some arbitrary rules about what’s valuable (the right domino, an ace of hearts, a jpeg of a monkey, a beanie baby) and then some people win some money and some people lose.

It’s happened before and it’ll happen again it’s the least surprising thing our culture has ever done. It’s just the superficial details that change every generation or two.

Re: Introducing the Icelandverse [video]

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Post by willmw101 »

axegon_ wrote: post #35
thewarrior wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can we be in post scarcity if millions of people are in poverty?

Well we have two worlds running in parallel as we stand: Most of North America, Europe and certain parts of Asia and the rest of the world. A large portion of what I refereed to "the rest of the world" is as distant from us as the middle ages. Not even apples to oranges at this point. Sure, you could argue that billions are poured into bridging that gap but the simple truth is that never works. Even if there wasn't a…

>A large portion of what I refereed to "the rest of the world" is as distant from us as the middle ages. Sure, you could argue that billions are poured into bridging that gap but the simple truth is that never works.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-of-population-in-ex...

Re: Introducing the Icelandverse [video]

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Post by iso1631 »

yakkomajuri wrote: post #37
JohnWhigham wrote: post #36

I thought Iceland was looking to put the brakes on the influx of tourists they're getting? This does not help that.

Brakes? Iceland's economy is heavily tourism-dependent. Measures were implemented for COVID but tourism is necessary. Sectors like tech are growing (as is the case everywhere else), but without tourism Iceland's economy is not far from that of the Faroe Islands: fish, fish, and more fish. (P.S. I live in Iceland) EDIT: There are movements towards more sustainable tourism, however.

I thought there was some banking stuff going on - how did that work out?
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