New Concerning Variant: B.1.1.529

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 3:14 AM UTC

jwlake wrote: post #267

simondotau wrote: post #243

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Well then I have to ask: what hypothetical rate of death could exceed your definition of minuscule? How many per capita deaths do we need to reach before you will agree that societal intervention is warranted? A number would be appreciated.

The simple answer is public policy always lags the public therefor is always a bad idea to implement NPIs. Public policy should be concentrating on increasing hospital capacity, therapeutic/prophylactic distribution. Presumably never on "lockdowns" or travel bans or masks. People will lock themselves down if it's bad enough, and more importantly at finer granularity and with more equity.

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Post by timr » Wed, Dec 01, 2021, 1:09 PM UTC

actually_a_dog wrote: post #103

timr wrote: post #52

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This review says that none of the community mask trials showed a significant effect. It says that 3/6 studies on respirators in medical settings had no significant effect. It said that 3/5 studies for masks as source control showed no significant effect. Here's a review of every mask study ever performed: https://www.cato.org/working-paper/evidence-community-cloth-... Here's a summary written by the same author, in c…

That's a mischaracterization. The non-significant results are as a result of "intention to treat" analysis. ITT analysis considers a subject to be part of whatever group they are initially assigned, regardless of what treatment they ultimately receive and/or how adherent they are to the protocol. Some of those studies even note low adherence. You wouldn't expect masks to work if people don't wear them, would you? htt…

You don't understand medical literature. ITT is the standard -- you don't get to invent a magical world where everyone does whatever you tell them to do, and people frolic amongst the chocolate rivers and gumdrop trees. If people don't listen to your brilliant medical intervention after you make a best effort to get them to do so -- or don't do it "correctly" -- that's on you, not them.

Otherwise, I have a brilliant plan to end all obesity, worldwide: don't eat when you're fat. Guaranteed to work. If it fails, it's your fault for not following the plan.

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