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Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by AussieWog93 »

mariavillosa wrote: post #970
AussieWog93 wrote: post #964

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The USA and UK, while not perfect, are absolutely more enlightened than, say, South Sudan or Saudi Arabia.

But almost all countries are more liberal than those two. My question isn't if the US and UK are the least enlightened countries in the world, but rather, if people see them as particularly enlightened among countries. Ie compared to any other random liberal country like Mexico or Czech Republic. I understand OP's point, just curious whether the examples used reflect a common perception. To me when thinking of stereo…

I understood "enlightened" to mean "espousing modern values of enlightenment" - basically fostering a belief in science and reason and trying to push mankind further in terms of technological and moral progress.

In this regard, both of those countries would be considered B-tier at worst.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by dmonitor »

riffic wrote: post #926
jessaustin wrote: post #925

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The truth is that someone's gotta pay the bills. Pleasing the crowd by giving the content away is easy; finding a way to pay the bills while upsetting the least amount of people who are strategically important for the next month's bills is the hard part. Twitter never "paid the bills" under his leadership. That's what added insult to the injury of removing previous open functionality: they pissed everybody off and di…

holy crap, yes, this is exactly how Twitter can monetize decentralization. Charge the kardashian clan x amount of dollars to run a managed version of Twitter's software on kardashian.com and allow for full interoperability with other services that speak a common protocol (the w3c has a protocol. use it!) you can also have governments and other institutional actors running the hosted software (then you can have @AOC@H…

Are you just reinventing email?

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by consumer451 »

hunterb123 wrote: post #980
consumer451 wrote: post #974

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Oh wow, I had no idea. So if it's not a coincidence, does this mean that twitter will host the seditious ponderings of the 45th President again? Strictly from a business pov, that couldn't be good for stability.

Doubt it, they just announced a citizen journalism ban. Seems like Dorsey was standing in the way of some censorship and the board replaced him. People documenting riots like Andy Ngo will be the first to go.

The article mentions a Republican activist investor. Why would someone active in right wing circles push for banning someone doing what Ngo is doing?

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by stcredzero »

datavirtue wrote: post #489
stcredzero wrote: post #404

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Perhaps things had started to slide sideways before that? I distinctly remember a period of time, I think nearly a decade back, when I'd constantly hear about something on NPR and think, "I saw that headline on reddit yesterday! Are they even trying!?"

Everything of significance comes by way of open sources. It isn't odd for anyone to do a story that was reported in another source.

If, at that time, NPR was aggregating information, that would be one thing. I really got the impression that they were mindlessly lifting headlines and story ideas.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by hunterb123 »

consumer451 wrote: post #983
hunterb123 wrote: post #980

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Doubt it, they just announced a citizen journalism ban. Seems like Dorsey was standing in the way of some censorship and the board replaced him. People documenting riots like Andy Ngo will be the first to go.

The article mentions a Republican activist investor. Why would someone active in right wing circles push for banning someone doing what Ngo is doing?

That's one new investor. The current board is who pushed Dorsey out.

It seems like that article is just a misdirection piece. Not surprising from The Guardian.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by gremloni »

bad_username wrote: post #764
simonebrunozzi wrote: post #748

A few reflections on this announcement. 1) Remember that CEOs of public companies are essentially unable to say what they think or want. The cost of doing it is being sued for damages, having to spend countless hours with lawyers, etc. Jack might think X, but he's only allowed to say Y, and he doesn't want to go beyond that because he doesn't want to fight that fight. Only people in a close circle really know what's…

> it has essentially enabled an incredible explosion of "voices" that can be heard Very controlled, curated, and politically corrected explosion. "Very lively debate within allowed spectrum".

That sounds like the dream.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by mrhands556 »

JohnBooty wrote: post #562
nend wrote: post #385

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This seems to hold true for many social media sites: facebook, reddit, twitter. It takes effort on behalf of the user to make their experience on the site "better". And by better I mean, less divisive, and less mindless scrolling of memes/low effort content. Thinking about it from the business's perspective, it probably ultimately also lowers their user engagement metrics. Users get a higher quality experience using…

It takes effort on behalf of the user to make their experience on the site "better" Broadly, I agree. I would say that for me, Twitter falls approximately halfway between: 1. Facebook: which is only barely tolerable, after much effort, and still seems to optimize for negative emotions, spam, etc and 2. Reddit: with minimal effort (just need to subscribe to subreddits) it is an entirely personalized experience of exac…

Reddit is and will change more over time. Today I get “posts you may like” on my home feed which are basically rehashed horrible takes from /r/politics on a different subreddit.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by mrhands556 »

LegitShady wrote: post #550
8ytecoder wrote: post #517

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Mind sharing a few interesting ones?

they're literally my personal interests. Find smaller subreddits related to your personal interests. If you don't like the same things I like my subreddits are unlikely to be interesting to you. The whole point here is to get rid of the all of the default subreddits, since they become garbage once they become default no matter what, and then find things that you're actually interested in that aren't default and thus…

I used to enjoy reddit so much but it’s honestly the worst place on the internet today. Every major sub is infested with politics, bias mods and toxic comments.

I wouldn’t be surprised if reddit is heavily influenced by bot activity. If you were a foreign influence who wanted to convey a certain narrative, then reddit would be the de-facto place for that.

1. Upvote and downvote system, where downvoted squelch bad takes, is perfect for narrative forming. 2. The demographic for reddit are young minds who most likely have a position on a certain topic because they’ve been told to from a place like reddit.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by blueboo »

mrpopo wrote: post #895
ksec wrote: post #796

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Twitter, ~$35B Market Cap, no profits, operating expenses keeps growing with Gross Profits. Future projection of profitability is still slim. Along with trillions of social / political issues that you have to due with because you are running social media. Square, ~$100B Market Cap, profitable, still mainly US based and growing. Crypto and Payment. Lots of potentials. It is not too hard to pick which one to run.

If your goal is personal monetary profit, maybe. Is it the case of Jack? Why want more when you already have too much

It’s not about money - it’s power, and shaping the future.

It’s not a matter of getting some amount of money…it’s choosing when you step back from the game and cede the future to your rivals.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by Cipater »

attemptone wrote: post #686
smolder wrote: post #374

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HN is not what I'd call cancer. Social media doesn't need to be an engagement-obsessed, emotionally charged misinformation hose. Social media is broader than the category that twitter and FB live in. It can be less toxic, but less toxic platforms are less exciting and don't get the same kind of attention , which is what all the toxic stuff optimizes for.

As a long time /lit/-izen I wanted bring up 4chan as an counter-example of a toxic platform that hasn't been optimized for attention. But the longer I thought about it, the more I grew sure that it isn't as toxic as it seems to be. Sure people will respond to your post calling you a bundle of sticks or the n-word. But in the end I had more heart-to-hearts with people that have widly different opinions than on any oth…

Sure, if you ignore the toxicity then it isn't as toxic as it "seems" to be.
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