FBI's ability to legally access secure messaging app content and metadata [pdf]

Post by chiefalchemist » Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 10:05 PM UTC

randomluck040 wrote: post #78

FalconSensei wrote: post #69

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> do not use face or fingerprint to secure your phone but can't they force you to put your password in that case, instead of your finger?

I think a fingerprint is easier to get if you’re not willing to cooperate. However, I think if they really, I mean really want your password, they will probably find a way to get it out of you. I think it also depends if it’s the local sheriff asking for your password or someone from the FBI while you’re tied up in a bunker somewhere in Nevada.

Post by cyral » Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 10:08 PM UTC

minhazm wrote: post #112

wskinner wrote: post #102

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On recent iPhones, the way to disable biometrics is to hold the side button and either volume button until a prompt appears, then tap cancel. Mashing the side button 5 times does not work.

Not sure how recent you're talking but I have an iPhone 11 Pro and I just tested pressing the side button 5 times and it takes me to the power off screen and prompts me for my password the same way that side button + volume does. Apple's docs also say that pressing the side button 5 times still works. > If you use the Emergency SOS shortcut, you need to enter your passcode to re-enable Touch ID, even if you don't com…

Post by jfrunyon » Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 10:09 PM UTC

nimbius wrote: post #38

georgyo wrote: post #6

It says Telegram has no message content. Isn't telegram not E2EE by default, instead required explicit steps to make a conversation encrypted? Either way looks like Signal wins by a lot. The size of it spot is so small, it seems almost squeezed in. But only because they have nothing to share.

for signal users this means the messages of course do exist on your phone, which will be the first thing these agencies seek to abscond with once youre detained as its infinitely more crackable in their hands. as a casual reminder: The fifth amendment protects your speech, not your biometrics. do not use face or fingerprint to secure your phone. use a strong passphrase, and if in doubt, power down the phone (android)…

Post by croutonwagon » Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 10:11 PM UTC

nimbius wrote: post #38

georgyo wrote: post #6

It says Telegram has no message content. Isn't telegram not E2EE by default, instead required explicit steps to make a conversation encrypted? Either way looks like Signal wins by a lot. The size of it spot is so small, it seems almost squeezed in. But only because they have nothing to share.

for signal users this means the messages of course do exist on your phone, which will be the first thing these agencies seek to abscond with once youre detained as its infinitely more crackable in their hands. as a casual reminder: The fifth amendment protects your speech, not your biometrics. do not use face or fingerprint to secure your phone. use a strong passphrase, and if in doubt, power down the phone (android)…

Post by croutonwagon » Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 10:13 PM UTC

wskinner wrote: post #102

leokennis wrote: post #65

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My advice if you’re not on the level where three letter agencies are actively interested in your comings and goings: - Use a strong pass phrase - Enable biometrics so you don’t need to type that pass phrase 100 times per day - Learn the shortcut to have your phone disable biometrics and require the pass phrase so you can use it when police is coming for you, you’re entering the immigration line in the airport etc. -…

On recent iPhones, the way to disable biometrics is to hold the side button and either volume button until a prompt appears, then tap cancel. Mashing the side button 5 times does not work.