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I wonder which smart TV provider will be the first to use this instead of home wifi where people can disable or black hole connectivity.
How does this compare to Helium 5G? https://www.helium.com/5G
I mean it's very obvious how it's different: helium is not private. It's also obvious that you just wanted to namedrop Helium even though it has nothing to do with the use case for Amazon's product.
But for a moving device (ex: truck) transmitting locally stored data without latency concerns (ex: IOT temperature readings for a frozen cargo) I think it would be much more efficient, with far more coverage: you could have a $20 LORAWAN ESP32 built in individual boxes.
Think of this like Apple airtags, using a mesh network to intermittently transfer data on a best effort basis, but hooked to custom sensors so you fully control the payload
Sounds like they are selling Wifi++ - what confuses me is how/why Amazon is involved, apart from selling the hardware. Is there a subscription piece? The implication of this product concerns me, although maybe it's just a communication issue. Amazon is selling this as an Amazon product, but wifi isn't an Amazon product, nor is 5G. They are retailing the gear to put up a 5G network - so why call it a "product" and rol…
So the value proposition here is that Amazon is operating the actual network, which is not a small thing. You just have to install the radio hardware.
Not sure how big the market will be for something like this; apart from, well, drug cartels in Mexico . 5G uses multiple bands, and the most useful, and highest throughput one, doesn't have a great range (high band, 24 GHz and up). So, perhaps you use 5G tech/devices but not use that, and instead focus on low band (600–900 MHz, few kilometers of range)? Would a mining company use this to oversee a large property? Wou…
Tacoma, WA is planning on deploying a private 5G network to make port operations more efficient. You can imagine containers coming in and out of ports are slowed when someone has to physically inspect them for damage. There are a few companies using AI to detect damaged containers and having a higher bandwidth allows those images to be more clear which in turn allows the AI to be more accurate.
Become a telecom as a service! Super cool. For those who are glancing over, this is a big deal. 5G isn't really like 4G upgraded. It's more its own thing. I believe this has been available though for a while and many telecoms have partnerships with FAANG beyond Amazon. With 5G you can essentially split a network into multiple partitions and scale them independently on-demand called Network Slicing. (like cloud comput…
If that's true, I wonder if this affects Tailscale's business and how.
Become a telecom as a service! Super cool. For those who are glancing over, this is a big deal. 5G isn't really like 4G upgraded. It's more its own thing. I believe this has been available though for a while and many telecoms have partnerships with FAANG beyond Amazon. With 5G you can essentially split a network into multiple partitions and scale them independently on-demand called Network Slicing. (like cloud comput…
This is my understanding as well, but I have no idea about any of the details. I know there's something cool about "beams". Do you (or anyone) have a good "entry-level" article/doc that outlines some of the major features that makes it so different than 4G?
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Don't think that's the use case. how would AWS deploy a base station to my home? But you have a real point, and AWS already solved that with the 3G enabled Kindles by having carrier agreements. Why not doing that with Smart TVs?
> Don't think that's the use case. how would AWS deploy a base station to my home? Unless I'm misunderstanding how this works, it wouldn't need a base station in your home, just a commodity cellular modem with a network-specific SIM, and an uplink tower somewhere within range.
now they have complete control over the end-to-end, and can cheaply provision sims that only talk to their local tower for example, and reject non-company provisioned IMEI (if they need it anymore?) etc
working on building blocking for this :)
I'd love to see _some_ pricing estimates. There's a good amount I'd pay to get something like this for some rural communities, but it's unclear if I'm anywhere near able to afford it.
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Tons of companies are in this space, e.g. https://www.verizon.com/about/news/verizon-business-launches... So it seems odd to call out AWS that they should have partnered with soracom or they aren't being ethical.
I think the idea is that AWS is slimy for rejecting a deal with a startup and then launching a competitive product. There's a difference between independently coming up with an idea versus transparently copying someone else's idea. Of course, we can't be certain that the AWS folks who launched Private 5g were even aware of the Soracom deal offer, but the optics certainly aren't favorable.
What's the business case for a service like this? Is there anyone on HN that would order this for example?
Almost all major cities operate a private LTE network for city agency use, for example. But for various reasons it's mostly been out of the reach of private ventures. This could be one piece of changing that (5G brings a number of the other pieces).