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Re: AWS Private 5G

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post #21

I wonder which smart TV provider will be the first to use this instead of home wifi where people can disable or black hole connectivity.

Don't think that's the use case. how would AWS deploy a base station to my home? But you have a real point, and AWS already solved that with the 3G enabled Kindles by having carrier agreements. Why not doing that with Smart TVs?

> But you have a real point, and AWS already solved that with the 3G enabled Kindles by having carrier agreements.

Amazon regretted that pretty soon after they did it, people hacked their kindles to be hotspots and it became an arms race amazon didn't wanna play.

Re: AWS Private 5G

#113
post #75
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Smart TVs scan what's on the screen to get data on what people are watching and sell that data to anyone who wants it The idea is to make sure they can keep that data flowing even if someone intentionally disconnects the TV from the internet

So they can (and sometimes already do) insert a SIM card in the TV and use any of the consumer 4G/LTE/5G networks out there which your phone connects to. Why are people hypothesizing that Vizio will ship a $250K 5G base station to your house?

because if setting up private 5G networks becomes cheaper and open to any business then the chance TV manufacturers consider putting 5G base near enough your house.

Re: AWS Private 5G

#114

I wonder if this is a product that was built on top of something they needed to use internally. Makes me wonder how Amazon is using this technology for themselves... Anyone care to speculate?

No internal use. This is a hype driven white labeling.

Re: AWS Private 5G

#115

This is such a dick move. Ex-AWS superstars built https://www.soracom.io/ , made AWS folks aware, who balked at a deal. Example 1198170892703973...

Tons of companies are in this space, e.g. https://www.verizon.com/about/news/verizon-business-launches...

So it seems odd to call out AWS that they should have partnered with soracom or they aren't being ethical.

Re: AWS Private 5G

#116

I wonder if this is a product that was built on top of something they needed to use internally. Makes me wonder how Amazon is using this technology for themselves... Anyone care to speculate?

One of the podcasts I listen to had AT&T as their sponsor and they would talk about using IoT to make factories and warehouses "smart", so it's possible amazon uses this in their warehouses instead of wifi to connect to the bots and hand terminals.

Re: AWS Private 5G

#117

This is such a dick move. Ex-AWS superstars built https://www.soracom.io/ , made AWS folks aware, who balked at a deal. Example 1198170892703973...

Amazon is known for doing this to early startups. They "partner" with a small team, learn what they do, and then copy it which screws the original team.

They have teams of lawyers so suing them does no good.

EDIT: I assumed this was a partnership. I have no clue if they partnered here. Just speaking broadly after watching a couple of my founder friends get screwed by Amazon.

Re: AWS Private 5G

#118
post #82

Now imagine a future where every device you buy is connected to the internet wirelessly, whether you like it or not.

So what? You can always isolate these things by removing the antenna or if all else fails putting them in a faraday cage

Re: AWS Private 5G

#119
post #38

I'd love to see _some_ pricing estimates. There's a good amount I'd pay to get something like this for some rural communities, but it's unclear if I'm anywhere near able to afford it.

Probably a small outpost deployment + RF gear, so (guessing) $500K up front and $10-20k/mo. I don't know if it's possible to get RDOF grants for individual communities but that might cover some of it.

In addition to the gear, would you have to license the spectrum from someone? I think the fcc already auctioned it all off? Or does that not apply here? Any idea what that would cost?

Re: AWS Private 5G

#120
post #94

Catching up with Azure, I see. Edge Zones has been available since May. https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/solutions/private-multi-ac...

Different products, Azure offering competes against AWS Wavelength.
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