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Re: AWS Private 5G

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see a potential use of it from IoT devices. An eg. a tractor wants to communicate with a central server for commands.

I fear what this means in larger scale. All Amazon manufactured physical IoT and hardware could have sidechannel in the future to escape network isolation. They already have this "feature" which expands your home network for neighbor Amazon devices if they need Internet access. And default setting is "ON", not off. How many consumer is aware of that? https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Sidewalk/b/?node=21328123011

This capability is considered in the design of 5G, see NB-IoT and LTE-M

Re: AWS Private 5G

#63

I wonder how do they link back to the main network? Would it require a fiber backbone in place as a prerequisite? Or through satellite uplink? i.e., would somewhere really remote, say, the oil rig in the North Sea, be out of luck for such installation?

It works over a regular IPSec tunnel I believe.

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post #38

I'd love to see _some_ pricing estimates. There's a good amount I'd pay to get something like this for some rural communities, but it's unclear if I'm anywhere near able to afford it.

Probably a small outpost deployment + RF gear, so (guessing) $500K up front and $10-20k/mo. I don't know if it's possible to get RDOF grants for individual communities but that might cover some of it.

Aren't small cells significantly cheaper?

Re: AWS Private 5G

#65

I wonder how many CISOs and CTOs trust Amazon. I'm not sufficiently technical on this front and so I'm probably being a little on the side of paranoia but I don't trust Amazon with my cellular infrastructure.

CTOs of like half the companies on the planet (and 90% of the Fortune 500) which use AWS seem to trust it just fine.

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post #21

I wonder which smart TV provider will be the first to use this instead of home wifi where people can disable or black hole connectivity.

I don’t think enough people use pihole for smart TV manufacturers to care, and encrypted DNS breaks that anyway so setting up a 5G base station in your house would be overkill

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post #59
post #21

I wonder which smart TV provider will be the first to use this instead of home wifi where people can disable or black hole connectivity.

What does a smart TV have to do with a private 5G network? People just upvote any meaningless comment on this site as long as it sounds mildly controversial.

Smart TVs scan what's on the screen to get data on what people are watching and sell that data to anyone who wants it

The idea is to make sure they can keep that data flowing even if someone intentionally disconnects the TV from the internet

Re: AWS Private 5G

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post #24

Spectrum questions aside (which obviously one of the biggest one), could this enable running Helium 5G on AWS? -- Edit: I don't own any Helium, just curious from tech side what this new AWS service could offer. Not sure the downvotes are particularly about Helium or any crypto related discussion.

Why do peole care about helium so much?

Re: AWS Private 5G

#69
post #16

I'd love to set this up for my rural community. I've got a good connection but many people have no cell service, no dsl lines, no cable...literally nothing. Until something like starlink is ubiquitous i feel like this could go a long way to solving their problems.

I don't think this solves the last-mile problem. You still have to provide (get) internet connectivity; Amazon just relays that landline to 5G. And in rural areas, 5G probably doesn't give you enough range anyhow. Have you considered mesh revenue-share networks like Althea ( https://www.althea.net/ )? There's a nonprofit one too operating in several cities, but I can't remember what it's called.

Starlink could be that backhaul. Future terminals will have 1Gbps.

Re: AWS Private 5G

#70
Probably worth noting that the regular cell providers can also provide SIMS that dump the end device into your existing, normal private network rather than the internet.

I don't know how this service differs in pricing, so it's hard to quantify when this AWS service would be a better idea outside of coverage issues.

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