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Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by DrNuke »

chadash wrote: post #5

LinkedIn yes, Indeed no. Almost all recruiters (internal and external) are active on LinkedIn. It definitely doesn't hurt to have a good profile... people will reach out to you . Recruiters get a lot of scorn, but I've had good experiences with them as long as you understand their incentives. They usually get some percentage of your starting salary, so let's say they make 15k if your offer is 100k (making up these nu…

> I've found some who are great and many others who suck.

Seconding this, and LinkedIn being more viable than Indeed. Serious recruiters, at the very least, have a clear incentive to find suitable candidates. On the contrary, though, so many offers coming directly from employers are just used to test waters: therefore, you need to send them a direct e-mail to stand out from the pile of applications.

Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by distances »

burnished wrote: post #92
999900000999 wrote: post #34

LinkedIn is pretty good, however I really do hate the photos. The main reason we don't have photos on resumes in the West, is because it opens you up to discrimination. My physical appearance should have nothing to do with my hireabilty I also very much hate how people keep trying to turn it into Facebook. Stop it. Get your validation somewhere else. Now with that said, I've found almost all of my recent jobs via Lin…

The social media aspects of the platform ruin it for me. I left Facebook years ago, so going to LinkedIn and getting that same experience is sort of awful. Its all adversity porn posts or reaction-bait.

You can completely ignore the feed. Even can hide it with uBlock if you're so inclined. I use LinkedIn just as a messaging platform for recruiters to contact me.

Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by aero-glide2 »

cvhashim wrote: post #83
kwertyoowiyop wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LinkedIn as Facebook: OMG yes. I’d love to have a filter that removes all posts containing: proud, excited, thrilled, humbled, awesome. Also, anything related to politics on either side.

Sounds like a business opportunity ;)

Good browser addon idea

Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by donkeyd »

Aea wrote: post #100
hwbehrens wrote: post #70

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> On the resume part, fill up your resume/LinkedIn profile. I've been told the opposite -- in the recruiter view on LinkedIn, they can only see your 3 most-recent positions, and they almost never expand the fold to see the rest. Thus, it's critical to curate those. For example, let's say you previously worked at BigCorp, but left to pursue your startup idea (Startup A). In the meantime, you've consulted at another st…

I can't speak to recruiters, but as a hiring manager I see padding as a yellow flag. I don't really want to see the same company listed three times consecutively unless you've spent 1+ year in substantially different roles.

> unless you've spent 1+ year in substantially different roles

That's exactly what I meant. I've seen people with a single entry for their current job at am employer they've worked at for 10 years. That means they've either been stuck in the same role and learned nothing... Or their profile doesn't show what they've actually done.

I've also seen 10 entries of 3 months at client X. That's not what I meant.

Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by andrew_ »

LinkedIn is mostly crap for finding work. Recruiters spam the bajeezus out of anyone accepting InMail and messages from recruiters based on shallow keyword matching. Tons of low quality, low pay, bad interview process gigs await you there. Your only saving grace on LinkedIn are actual connections you know (not randoms that want to add you) posting jobs for places they work at. Recommendations from known actors are always worth a look.

I've had a lot of luck on AngelList personally. I find more creative interview processes and often you'll get to speak with the C-Suite very early on. Because, you know, startups.

I have several friends who have had luck on hired.com, but I haven't tried it.

Generally speaking, in nearly twenty years, I've had exactly two gigs that weren't based on a reference from someone I knew working at a place. The two that weren't a reference was 1) An actual quality recruiter got through the noise on LinkedIn and offered a lucrative one year contract, and 2) was contact directly (did not apply) on AngelList by a startup CEO. Cold-applying from the ether is a tough way to get a gig.

Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by philwelch »

digitalsushi wrote: post #15
5350-uiop-1130 wrote: post #7

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I would say they mostly suck. Very slimy, unwilling to divulge basic information and will ghost you in a heartbeat.

And if your cell phone ends up in their list, woo-ee they will call you at 11pm on a Sunday if it means you're more likely to pick up. It would have panicked me to get a call at 11pm at one point in my life, but thanks to recruiters I just never answer the phone at all. Voicemail is my butler.

I get so many phone scams that I’ve set my phone to ignore all calls from unidentified contacts.

Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by ajb »

gbuk2013 wrote: post #17

I got my current job via Hired - basically just type up my profile and wait for someone to reach out. It was a pretty smooth and quick process but that was about a year ago - I heard rumours they ran out of money and turned into a Linkedin clone since so YMMV (would be interested in peoples’ recent experiences in case I need to look again). I do get quite a few messages from recruiters on Linkedin but I get a feeling…

The weird part about Hired is that you seem to be required to set up calls before you even know what the job is. As an introvert, I hate that.

The problem with all intermediaries is that they want to manage your attention. The more of your finite time they can use with their pitches, the less time you can spend considering alternatives. At least with Hired you're also using up the time of someone directly at the employer.

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