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Re: AWS Private 5G

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Post by foobarian » Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 5:47 PM UTC

anonymousDan wrote: post #9

Surely the problem is access to spectrum, or is the idea to rely on unused spectrum bands reserved for local experimental use?

There is a ton of bandwidth up in the millimeter wave area if line of sight is not too obstructed. One whole GHz is nothing while with legacy WiFi it could be almost half the actual carrier frequency.

Re: AWS Private 5G

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Post by turtlebits » Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 5:47 PM UTC

I wonder what the range is for their small cell towers. Would be interesting for off-grid/remote communities (pair with Starlink?).

edit: Reading more, it might not be the right use case - doesn't sound like something you use for your phone.

Re: AWS Private 5G

#33

Post by kumarski » Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 5:47 PM UTC

I wonder how many CISOs and CTOs trust Amazon.

I'm not sufficiently technical on this front and so I'm probably being a little on the side of paranoia but I don't trust Amazon with my cellular infrastructure.

Re: AWS Private 5G

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Post by pokoleo » Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 5:48 PM UTC

mfer wrote: post #21

I wonder which smart TV provider will be the first to use this instead of home wifi where people can disable or black hole connectivity.

Some smart TVs already ship with sim cards. It just requires a deal with AT&T/Tmo/etc.

Re: AWS Private 5G

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Post by emteycz » Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 5:48 PM UTC

kumarski wrote: post #33

I wonder how many CISOs and CTOs trust Amazon. I'm not sufficiently technical on this front and so I'm probably being a little on the side of paranoia but I don't trust Amazon with my cellular infrastructure.

What makes you trust telcos more?

Re: AWS Private 5G

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Post by ahaseeb » Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 5:49 PM UTC

FemmeAndroid wrote: post #28

I'd love to see _some_ pricing estimates. There's a good amount I'd pay to get something like this for some rural communities, but it's unclear if I'm anywhere near able to afford it.

I would love to connect on this. Do you've any rural communities in mind ?

Re: AWS Private 5G

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Post by sithadmin » Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 5:50 PM UTC

cinbun8 wrote: post #4

What's the business case for a service like this? Is there anyone on HN that would order this for example?

Private LTE/5g is huge in the energy sector. You'll find it deployed for various IoT and end user devices at oil fields, offshore rigs, and even in parallel to the major carriers in large metro areas. The latter is fairly common with energy utility providers. One of the US's largest energy suppliers in the South operates what is probably the largest private LTE deployment in North America, using their own transmission towers to cover a majority of two states in the US Southeast. In addition to using this to support their own ops, they lease access out to other businesses.

It's also increasingly common to see private LTE/5g deployed to support municipal government operations.

Re: AWS Private 5G

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Post by jcims » Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 5:50 PM UTC

FemmeAndroid wrote: post #28

I'd love to see _some_ pricing estimates. There's a good amount I'd pay to get something like this for some rural communities, but it's unclear if I'm anywhere near able to afford it.

Probably a small outpost deployment + RF gear, so (guessing) $500K up front and $10-20k/mo. I don't know if it's possible to get RDOF grants for individual communities but that might cover some of it.

Re: AWS Private 5G

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Post by kumarski » Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 5:50 PM UTC

emteycz wrote: post #35

kumarski wrote: post #33

I wonder how many CISOs and CTOs trust Amazon. I'm not sufficiently technical on this front and so I'm probably being a little on the side of paranoia but I don't trust Amazon with my cellular infrastructure.

What makes you trust telcos more?

Who said I trust telcos more?

Waveform.com is worth looking at.

Re: AWS Private 5G

#40

Post by ahaseeb » Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 5:51 PM UTC

verelo wrote: post #16

I'd love to set this up for my rural community. I've got a good connection but many people have no cell service, no dsl lines, no cable...literally nothing. Until something like starlink is ubiquitous i feel like this could go a long way to solving their problems.

Can you email me haseeb@haseebawan.com - I would love to talk about it since we're working on solving this