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Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by Nextgrid »

rurp wrote: post #75
Nextgrid wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From my experience there are 2 kinds of recruiters. Those most likely operating out of the same boiler rooms as tech support scammers who have pitch terrible roles and employ a spray & pray approach where it's just a spam campaign with very little effort on their side. Those are a waste of time, the roles are terrible and are pretty much never matched to your profile, and when you go through anyway the recruiter will…

Can you share a bit about how to find the second type of recruiter? I've gotten a sense of the dynamic you're describing but have no real idea of how to find good recruiters. As you say, pretty much all of the inbound messages I get are very spammy.

That's a very good question I don't think I have a straightforward answer to. I built my network over time by using LinkedIn suggestions - the more recruiters you connect with the more it will recommend, and now I occasionally get new connection requests from recruiters which I approve if they're relevant to my industry/skills and aren't from the first category.

I guess I would just throw a few names out there and let you build from there. Disclaimer: I haven't worked with them enough to say they are truly exceptional, but at least they're not from the first category and actually have decent roles:

* La Fosse Associates

* Opus Recruitment Solutions

* Austin Fraser

* Gathered and Found (never heard of this one but got recommended it by someone just now)

Connect with a few people from each, have a few calls and go from there.

Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by burnished »

999900000999 wrote: post #34

LinkedIn is pretty good, however I really do hate the photos. The main reason we don't have photos on resumes in the West, is because it opens you up to discrimination. My physical appearance should have nothing to do with my hireabilty I also very much hate how people keep trying to turn it into Facebook. Stop it. Get your validation somewhere else. Now with that said, I've found almost all of my recent jobs via Lin…

The social media aspects of the platform ruin it for me. I left Facebook years ago, so going to LinkedIn and getting that same experience is sort of awful. Its all adversity porn posts or reaction-bait.

Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by mrep »

onion2k wrote: post #8

It depends where you want to work. You need to go where the companies you'd like to work for look for staff. If you're looking for a role somewhere big and well known then Google, Indeed, etc are a good bet. If you want something more start-up oriented then sites like workatastartup are good. If you want something a bit more niche and unusual then using your LinkedIn network works well. The last few times I've looked…

> The last few times I've looked for a role I've just googled for companies I'd like to work at and browsed their careers pages.

I'm surprised so many people are not mentioning this. I have applied to 7 companies directly on their websites recently and only 1 hasn't reached back out to me about interviewing.

Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by Nextgrid »

999900000999 wrote: post #34

LinkedIn is pretty good, however I really do hate the photos. The main reason we don't have photos on resumes in the West, is because it opens you up to discrimination. My physical appearance should have nothing to do with my hireabilty I also very much hate how people keep trying to turn it into Facebook. Stop it. Get your validation somewhere else. Now with that said, I've found almost all of my recent jobs via Lin…

You can use LinkedIn as purely a profile/online resume and as a way to message potential opportunities. Do not look at the news feed, do not "engage" with anything else beyond your profile, connection requests and inbox.

Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by CountDrewku »

999900000999 wrote: post #34

LinkedIn is pretty good, however I really do hate the photos. The main reason we don't have photos on resumes in the West, is because it opens you up to discrimination. My physical appearance should have nothing to do with my hireabilty I also very much hate how people keep trying to turn it into Facebook. Stop it. Get your validation somewhere else. Now with that said, I've found almost all of my recent jobs via Lin…

>My physical appearance should have nothing to do with my hireabilty

I don't necessarily agree. There are jobs where appearance is important, especially customer facing ones.

And I'm sure I'll catch flak for this but if you're obese, slovenly, or unhealthy looking that kinda has to factor in. I would certainly question how well you could handle a job if you can't even handle your personal life. Discrimination sucks but it's just a reality. Everyone does it, and sometimes it's a necessary "evil".

I think if you've got good resume showing your aptitude most places are going to care less about your appearance. Besides, they're going to see your face in the interview anyway. So, if you think your appearance is causing companies to avoid you they're not going to suddenly change when you show up for the interview and you're probably just wasting your time.

Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by yamazakiwi »

milkytron wrote: post #76

I've had a lot of success with Dice.com

I was recently doing research on Job Boards and found their revenue surprising despite having such an old looking website. edit Oh, it appears they have updated it within the last month or so.

Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by CountDrewku »

burnished wrote: post #90
tester34 wrote: post #67

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I will play devil for lulz: >My physical appearance should have nothing to do with my hireabilty but actually why? you know - if you have two equally skilled people... and one of them has tattoos on 90% of his/her body and your company works for banking industry, then is it pros or con?

You haven't really played devils advocate, you've just suggested a completely straightforward example that demonstrates why we'd rather not have the pictures as part of the hiring process.

Are you suggesting the employer never sees your face? This response makes no sense. They will see you at some point in the process regardless of whether it's on linkedin or in person at the interview. Physical appearance is part of life, it's no more discriminatory than refusing to hire stupid or mentally deficient people.

Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by oojuliuso »

cvhashim wrote: post #83
kwertyoowiyop wrote: post #61

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LinkedIn as Facebook: OMG yes. I’d love to have a filter that removes all posts containing: proud, excited, thrilled, humbled, awesome. Also, anything related to politics on either side.

Sounds like a business opportunity ;)

I fear any upstart LinkedIn competitor sans social would just become another LinkedIn over time. Just don’t see the incentives for entering the professional networking space.

Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by hef19898 »

strikelaserclaw wrote: post #82
hef19898 wrote: post #40

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STAR, Situation, Task, Action, Result, is such a powerful tool. It works for FAANG (at Amazon it is a basic prerequisite), it is even more powerful when used at recruiters and interviewers who don't know STAR. Those people are just blown away by the concise way STAR helps a candidate to present himself during an interview.

It is kinda sad that every facet of an interview has become a formula.

It is. STAR so, as a principle, helps a lot to sort your thoughts and make them easier to understand for other people.

Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by Aea »

hwbehrens wrote: post #70
donkeyd wrote: post #49

The short answer is: yes. Especially LinkedIn. The longer answer is somewhat unrelated. If you never really interviewed or applied after college, it's going to be crappy if you take all the resume/application/interview classes seriously. On the resume part, fill up your resume/LinkedIn profile. If you've done 'various QA and product roles' and 'project management to product management', make sure to write them all do…

> On the resume part, fill up your resume/LinkedIn profile. I've been told the opposite -- in the recruiter view on LinkedIn, they can only see your 3 most-recent positions, and they almost never expand the fold to see the rest. Thus, it's critical to curate those. For example, let's say you previously worked at BigCorp, but left to pursue your startup idea (Startup A). In the meantime, you've consulted at another st…

I can't speak to recruiters, but as a hiring manager I see padding as a yellow flag. I don't really want to see the same company listed three times consecutively unless you've spent 1+ year in substantially different roles.
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