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Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by vxNsr »

ghaff wrote: post #65
jstx1 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really doubt that anyone's interviewing skills are so good that they can cure the interviewer's racism. The problem itself is real of course, I just don't think that having or not having a profile picture will make any difference. And there's other factors too - do I need to hide my name so I don't give away that I'm from a foreign country or that I'm a woman? I don't want to pretend that I have a solution for raci…

The same thing probably applies to ageism. Sure, you can tap dance around putting a lot of specific dates on your resume. But generally it's pretty obvious within a decade or so. And, if you really go whole hog and don't even put any durations, you probably don't want to look like you're maybe just out of school if you've just had a couple long duration jobs--and the company's application form will probably make you…

To each their own, but my mom who is nearly 60 and still enjoys working, had good experience with just removing the years from her college and like her first 4 jobs.

Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by strikelaserclaw »

hef19898 wrote: post #40
tomkat0789 wrote: post #10

You should be OK since you have experience. Just make sure your interviewing skills are dusted off, review the STAR method, etc. My anecdata as a PhD engineer: my first job out of college came from putting my info into a faceless corporate careers website. I also got a competing offer through LinkedIn. My current job at a little I felt pretty useless fresh out of college, but once I got my first job, I started gettin…

STAR, Situation, Task, Action, Result, is such a powerful tool. It works for FAANG (at Amazon it is a basic prerequisite), it is even more powerful when used at recruiters and interviewers who don't know STAR. Those people are just blown away by the concise way STAR helps a candidate to present himself during an interview.

It is kinda sad that every facet of an interview has become a formula.

Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by cvhashim »

kwertyoowiyop wrote: post #61
999900000999 wrote: post #34

LinkedIn is pretty good, however I really do hate the photos. The main reason we don't have photos on resumes in the West, is because it opens you up to discrimination. My physical appearance should have nothing to do with my hireabilty I also very much hate how people keep trying to turn it into Facebook. Stop it. Get your validation somewhere else. Now with that said, I've found almost all of my recent jobs via Lin…

LinkedIn as Facebook: OMG yes. I’d love to have a filter that removes all posts containing: proud, excited, thrilled, humbled, awesome. Also, anything related to politics on either side.

Sounds like a business opportunity ;)

Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by waylandsmithers »

Yes to LinkedIn, but also reach out to people you know. If you've been with the same company for nearly 10 years there must be a number of people you worked with who have moved on to other companies that you could consider applying to. They can get you into the hiring pipeline the fastest and also give it to you straight about what it's like to work there.

Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by karaterobot »

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the HN "who is hiring" threads. I've used them a couple times, and like the format. There are a few ways to search old threads, here's one: https://hnhiring.com/

I think linkedin is another good resource, yes. I know that when I interview people, I always check their linkedin profiles for their previous employment, skills, recommendations, etc.

Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by ramesh31 »

999900000999 wrote: post #34

LinkedIn is pretty good, however I really do hate the photos. The main reason we don't have photos on resumes in the West, is because it opens you up to discrimination. My physical appearance should have nothing to do with my hireabilty I also very much hate how people keep trying to turn it into Facebook. Stop it. Get your validation somewhere else. Now with that said, I've found almost all of my recent jobs via Lin…

>LinkedIn is pretty good, however I really do hate the photos. The main reason we don't have photos on resumes in the West, is because it opens you up to discrimination. My physical appearance should have nothing to do with my hireabilty

I think this can go both ways. As a black person, I honestly prefer when people reach out to me via Linkedin because I at least know they are aware of my race ahead of time. I've had plenty of interviews where, because I have a white name and sound and act white over the phone, people have treated me completely differently after meeting in person. I'd rather just be able to be up front about it.

Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by ghaff »

vxNsr wrote: post #81
ghaff wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same thing probably applies to ageism. Sure, you can tap dance around putting a lot of specific dates on your resume. But generally it's pretty obvious within a decade or so. And, if you really go whole hog and don't even put any durations, you probably don't want to look like you're maybe just out of school if you've just had a couple long duration jobs--and the company's application form will probably make you…

To each their own, but my mom who is nearly 60 and still enjoys working, had good experience with just removing the years from her college and like her first 4 jobs.

I'm not sure what that proves though. I got my last job well into my 50s and my approximate age was certainly no secret to the people hiring me given that I knew them personally. I guess my feeling is that there's generally not a good reason to hide things that are going to be obvious the minute someone lays eyes on you, especially if doing so might itself raise a flag in someone's mind.

Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by addingnumbers »

jstx1 wrote: post #62
bogwog wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And the way you look affects hiring anyway - at some point you'll have to talk to someone over video or in person. The problem is that you probably won't get that far if an employer doesn't like the color of your skin, your gender, that you're in a wheelchair, etc. Your resume will probably go in the trash as soon as they see your photo. But if you can at least get into an interview, you have an opportunity to sell…

I really doubt that anyone's interviewing skills are so good that they can cure the interviewer's racism. The problem itself is real of course, I just don't think that having or not having a profile picture will make any difference. And there's other factors too - do I need to hide my name so I don't give away that I'm from a foreign country or that I'm a woman? I don't want to pretend that I have a solution for raci…

> I really doubt that anyone's interviewing skills are so good that they can cure the interviewer's racism.

Racism can be very subtle and insidious, though.

You don't always need to talk them out of beliefs like "we are going to take your country away from you," it's more about dispelling unexamined gut beliefs like "the best candidate will probably visually resemble the people who have been good in that role before." The latter is less difficult to overcome if you can get yourself into the face-to-face stage.

Re: Ask HN: Are Indeed, LinkedIn the go-to places for exploring new jobs?

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Post by burnished »

tester34 wrote: post #67
999900000999 wrote: post #34

LinkedIn is pretty good, however I really do hate the photos. The main reason we don't have photos on resumes in the West, is because it opens you up to discrimination. My physical appearance should have nothing to do with my hireabilty I also very much hate how people keep trying to turn it into Facebook. Stop it. Get your validation somewhere else. Now with that said, I've found almost all of my recent jobs via Lin…

I will play devil for lulz: >My physical appearance should have nothing to do with my hireabilty but actually why? you know - if you have two equally skilled people... and one of them has tattoos on 90% of his/her body and your company works for banking industry, then is it pros or con?

You haven't really played devils advocate, you've just suggested a completely straightforward example that demonstrates why we'd rather not have the pictures as part of the hiring process.
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