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I became the internet’s most notorious bike thief

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Re: I became the internet’s most notorious bike thief

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> And the irony, of course, is this: the pictured bike itself was never stolen, but the rushed magazine photo has been – by hundreds of people, perpetuating a fake crime over and over. At what point (if ever) would using a photo like this fall under fair use? The author doesn’t seem to care, but I’m curious if copyright is ever forfeited due to widespread use or inaction of the copyright holder.

Never is the simple answer. Otherwise all copyright would have pretty much been eliminated by the pirate bay. Enforcement and collection of the damages is a totally different issue.

In the US, the picture would become public domain 70 years after the death of the author.

As for fair use: if you were to criticise something related to the image (say, you make a whole youtube video criticising the blog posts on this website and this image scrolls by when you do a quick lookaround on the website) or make some kind of transformative art out of it and the author would sue under DMCA or similar and the lawsuit would be based on US law, fair use would probably apply.

Fair use is a defence to use in a lawsuit, after all, not a right, but you can definitely do things with this picture that would be defensible under fair use. Companies specialising in copyright would probably try to convince you to avoid a lawsuit and come to a mutually beneficial agreement before the thing is settled, though, because big media companies do not like it when copyright law and things like fair use get defined (and thus consumer rights may be gained, and the excessive wealth of the media industry might get dented).

What the pirate bay did could never really be construed as fair use. At best, they can claim to simply host links, no content, and should not be held accountable for the illegal behaviour of the users and searching clicking said links, just like normal service providers. That's not an exemption in copyright law, though.

Re: I became the internet’s most notorious bike thief

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As a father, I would be mildly concerned about this notoriety, especially as a traveler. Airport authorities are not known for the subtlety of their understanding, and it is entirely plausible that this man might be arrested and jailed on the basis of not only being photographed committing a crime, but now admitting to it, calling himself a thief. Yes, this would be preposterous, wrong, and I might go so far as to ca…

He was not photographed committing a crime. They framed a shot, akin to acting, and no bike was stolen. The author clearly outlines this point that nothing was stolen. If the author showed his face, showing a clear resemblance, I could see notoriety possibly raise some eyebrows being the same guy as the bike thief stock photo... But that's a very far fetched possibility. Unless the guy was convicted of a crime, with…

This is an expression of contempt for authority, and is not a criticism of the OP. The fear I recommend is not tinfoil hat stuff, it's just an unfortunate byproduct of broken minds running a broken justice system.

You should also know that posting on a forum with "hacker" in the title is dangerous.

Re: I became the internet’s most notorious bike thief

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He was not photographed committing a crime. They framed a shot, akin to acting, and no bike was stolen. The author clearly outlines this point that nothing was stolen. If the author showed his face, showing a clear resemblance, I could see notoriety possibly raise some eyebrows being the same guy as the bike thief stock photo... But that's a very far fetched possibility. Unless the guy was convicted of a crime, with…

This is an expression of contempt for authority, and is not a criticism of the OP. The fear I recommend is not tinfoil hat stuff, it's just an unfortunate byproduct of broken minds running a broken justice system. You should also know that posting on a forum with "hacker" in the title is dangerous.

Are you also arguing it's "dangerous" for Michael Hall (aka notorious serial killer Dexter Morgan) to walk through an airport?

Re: I became the internet’s most notorious bike thief

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Just one more reminder that when one puts something online, it stays there forever. The innocent photo of someone in his 20s dancing naked while drunk at a party that today could award him bonus social points among peers, would destroy his political career 30 years later.

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Just one more reminder that when one puts something online, it stays there forever. The innocent photo of someone in his 20s dancing naked while drunk at a party that today could award him bonus social points among peers, would destroy his political career 30 years later.

>The innocent photo of someone in his 20s dancing naked while drunk at a party that today could award him bonus social points among peers, would destroy his political career 30 years later

We have a politician in either blackface or KKK outfit. I don't think dancing naked at a party is enough.

Re: I became the internet’s most notorious bike thief

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an expression of contempt for authority, and is not a criticism of the OP. The fear I recommend is not tinfoil hat stuff, it's just an unfortunate byproduct of broken minds running a broken justice system. You should also know that posting on a forum with "hacker" in the title is dangerous.

Are you also arguing it's "dangerous" for Michael Hall (aka notorious serial killer Dexter Morgan) to walk through an airport?

It's the unknown people who say or do unusual things that risk running afoul of the authorities. Hall is famous enough and what he does is "usual" enough he's probably okay. But writing a public website that declares you're a bike thief in the headline? I'm thinking that a lot of LEOs aren't going to bother reading the rest of it, call it probable cause and grind up another person's life in the pre-trial torture machine that is American justice. And their supervisor is going to say, "Job well done. Too bad this one got away." Sorry to be cynical like this, but it's not without reason.

Re: I became the internet’s most notorious bike thief

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Just one more reminder that when one puts something online, it stays there forever. The innocent photo of someone in his 20s dancing naked while drunk at a party that today could award him bonus social points among peers, would destroy his political career 30 years later.

That's why we should post nothing. Yes--absolutely nothing, and tell everyone who has your picture in an album, or digital, about your aversion to pictures, and posting.

Idea for a tee shirt.

Front: Don't take a pic of my mug. (You can't say "picture of me" because they will think you are a narcissist, or egotistical.

Back: And never post my mug to the internet, and that you includes grandma. Although I love you!

Re: I became the internet’s most notorious bike thief

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Just one more reminder that when one puts something online, it stays there forever. The innocent photo of someone in his 20s dancing naked while drunk at a party that today could award him bonus social points among peers, would destroy his political career 30 years later.

>The innocent photo of someone in his 20s dancing naked while drunk at a party that today could award him bonus social points among peers, would destroy his political career 30 years later We have a politician in either blackface or KKK outfit. I don't think dancing naked at a party is enough.

OK make it a 'her'.
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