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What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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Hmm. This is quite an overreaction to what I wrote. You “condemn me” for these comments I’ve posted on hacker news? Seriously? All I am asking for is an articulation of the alternative interpretation of events that you have said is lacking in media reports. I can only think of one reason why you would believe that my questions somehow show me to be “extremely angry” (when I am not) or that I want to “dictate others’…

You're probably wasting your time :) Here's more context for what this user is peddling: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29344244 See also @honglilai on Twitter ("Hongli Lai") for more exclusively pro-China commentary. I'm afraid that engaging him in honest debate is an exercise in futility. (Note: I'm not attempting to dox the user, his Twitter handle/name can be found in his HN profile)

Exclusively pro-China commentary... such as "discriminations of Africans in Guangzhou is wrong"[1] and non-political commentary such as "healthcare workers in Shenzheng are getting 1 free meal a day, this is good progress in society"[2]?

Come on man, aren't we supposed to be "only against the CCP and for the Chinese people"?

[1] https://twitter.com/honglilai/status/1256923741940068353?s=2...

[2] https://twitter.com/honglilai/status/1454718292191596551?s=2...

Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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This "condescension" is wholly your reading. I meant literally what I said: if you agree with the media then great, I won't bother you and I'm happy for you. But here you go taking a sign of good faith and then interpreting it as an attack. It seems you are the one hiding something here. You are looking for "wrong thoughts" in others. All this is wholly abhorrent, shameful behavior and I condemn you for it. Look othe…

Hmm. This is quite an overreaction to what I wrote. You “condemn me” for these comments I’ve posted on hacker news? Seriously? All I am asking for is an articulation of the alternative interpretation of events that you have said is lacking in media reports. I can only think of one reason why you would believe that my questions somehow show me to be “extremely angry” (when I am not) or that I want to “dictate others’…

I don't believe at all that you are being honest in saying that "all your are asking for is an articulation". You're trying to doxx me; i.e. a witch hunt, for possibly having wrong thoughts, where even not having an opinion is reason to suspect someone for having wrong thoughts.

TLDR: no.

Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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Hmm. This is quite an overreaction to what I wrote. You “condemn me” for these comments I’ve posted on hacker news? Seriously? All I am asking for is an articulation of the alternative interpretation of events that you have said is lacking in media reports. I can only think of one reason why you would believe that my questions somehow show me to be “extremely angry” (when I am not) or that I want to “dictate others’…

I don't believe at all that you are being honest in saying that "all your are asking for is an articulation". You're trying to doxx me; i.e. a witch hunt, for possibly having wrong thoughts, where even not having an opinion is reason to suspect someone for having wrong thoughts. TLDR: no.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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Looking at your posts on HN (this topic and others) you clearly and plainly defend CCP (chinese gov) on many of it's policies (even if being atrocities), while trying to evade questions and whitewash topics. You did try defend CCP Taiwan stance. You either lie, either are (in my opinion) delusional, because your writing here 'CCP is open to criticism', on this very thread about Peng. This is nuts. Literally 30 minute…

You are making very big assumptions. Re Taiwan (or any other matter), I am anti-war and pro-peace. Let's make a wager: I dare you to dig up a message in which I support military invasion of Taiwan. If you can do so within 3 days I will pay you $1000 USD. Otherwise you pay me $1000 USD. Do you dare to take this challenge? Saying "you clearly and plainly defend CCP" is unnuanced at best, a complete misrepresentation at…

While I agree with your (general) point, I'm not so sure about the last paragraph.

I mean, I would answer "yes" to your "being oppressed by the government" part. And, to some extent, everyone who lives in mainland China and reads HN should feel so, as HN is censored by GFW.

Overthrowing CCP idk, I am not seeing how this could be practically done without making my life significantly worse. So that's the trade-off I made.

Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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post #344

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You are making very big assumptions. Re Taiwan (or any other matter), I am anti-war and pro-peace. Let's make a wager: I dare you to dig up a message in which I support military invasion of Taiwan. If you can do so within 3 days I will pay you $1000 USD. Otherwise you pay me $1000 USD. Do you dare to take this challenge? Saying "you clearly and plainly defend CCP" is unnuanced at best, a complete misrepresentation at…

While I agree with your (general) point, I'm not so sure about the last paragraph. I mean, I would answer "yes" to your "being oppressed by the government" part. And, to some extent, everyone who lives in mainland China and reads HN should feel so, as HN is censored by GFW. Overthrowing CCP idk, I am not seeing how this could be practically done without making my life significantly worse. So that's the trade-off I ma…

That is fair. I too have met Chinese that are anti-govt/anti-CCP (though nowadays they seem to be a minority). And yes I also recognize that there are still many problems that need solving.

Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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post #334

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You're probably wasting your time :) Here's more context for what this user is peddling: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29344244 See also @honglilai on Twitter ("Hongli Lai") for more exclusively pro-China commentary. I'm afraid that engaging him in honest debate is an exercise in futility. (Note: I'm not attempting to dox the user, his Twitter handle/name can be found in his HN profile)

Exclusively pro-China commentary... such as "discriminations of Africans in Guangzhou is wrong"[1] and non-political commentary such as "healthcare workers in Shenzheng are getting 1 free meal a day, this is good progress in society"[2]? Come on man, aren't we supposed to be "only against the CCP and for the Chinese people"? [1] https://twitter.com/honglilai/status/1256923741940068353?s=2... [2] https://twitter.com/h…

Just answer the question: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29362031

Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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post #192

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They aren't aiming to be harmful. But I've seen plenty of people paint everybody who have a non-mainstream opinion on China, as paid undercover propagandists.

You don't have a non-mainstream opinion on China; you hold every Chinese (domestic) mainstream opinion and parrot them on this Western forum. One only needs to look at your post history to see that all you do here is post CCP propaganda. Who would do that but a paid shill? HN is one of the few places online that both allows free speech and isn't riddled with bots/spammers/shills. I'd like to keep it that way, meaning…

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