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Re: Winamp source code leak

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Post by soylentcola »

0des wrote: post #107
dvdkon wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almost, but since it publicly associates the files you share with your IP address, I don't see most interested people willing to use it in this context.

Pinning services exist, VPN's exist, also every other technology including torrents exposes your IP.

True, but torrents et al make you a peer, so you're also distributing, not just saving a copy locally. At least that's how I've always understood it in terms of legal risk.

But yeah, VPN has (so far) been enough for me to avoid being low hanging fruit when torrenting something I don't have a license to "distribute" while seeding.

Re: Winamp source code leak

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Post by kats »

Stop using archive.org to host illegal content, the site is run on donations and they'll have to become less open if people use them as just another filesharing site. Policing uploads requires staff and costs real money. Legal issues cost real money.

Re: Winamp source code leak

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Post by beckman466 »

acidburnNSA wrote: post #137
tombert wrote: post #55

Honest question, as someone who actually used Winamp back in ~2004: why would you want to use it now? I have some nostalgia for it, sure, but what exactly does it actually offer you that something like VLC doesn't? It seems like it plays my music and videos competently enough, and I don't know anyone who actually uses Shoutcast anymore. This isn't a passive aggressive dig or anything, I would actually like to know.

Not quite an answer, but I used to have my whole library loaded up in one list and could search any part of it, including the path, using the "j" key to instantly play basically any song in it from the keyboard. It was so good that I literally put an old desktop computer in the trunk of my car in 2000 (with eggshell foam bungee-corded around the hard drives for shock absorption) and ran a long keyboard wire to the dr…

damn what a DIY project!

Re: Winamp source code leak

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Post by lproven »

skeeter2020 wrote: post #144
lproven wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Foodbar 2000 FTW. https://www.foobar2000.org/ Tiny, fast, simple, does the job. There's an Android version too, which is my go-to audio player, because of its simplicity. Both FOSS.

Haven't tried Foodbar :) I use Foobar on my PC daily but didn't even know it was available on Android, so thanks! Musicolet is also a great Android player without all the BS (ex: can run mp3 files copied to the device with no internet connnection)

Blast. Didn't even notice. Sorry!

Re: Winamp source code leak

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Post by ktm5j »

kats wrote: post #262

Stop using archive.org to host illegal content, the site is run on donations and they'll have to become less open if people use them as just another filesharing site. Policing uploads requires staff and costs real money. Legal issues cost real money.

I might be wrong here, but I think it's more that archive.org had already crawled and mirrored this page. Then the OP or someone else found the content that was already there and shared it with people. It's not that OP or some archive user deliberately caused this page to be mirrored.

Re: Winamp source code leak

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Post by dmos62 »

soylentcola wrote: post #261
0des wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pinning services exist, VPN's exist, also every other technology including torrents exposes your IP.

True, but torrents et al make you a peer, so you're also distributing, not just saving a copy locally. At least that's how I've always understood it in terms of legal risk. But yeah, VPN has (so far) been enough for me to avoid being low hanging fruit when torrenting something I don't have a license to "distribute" while seeding.

To be fair, most Bittorrent users have not had any legal issues (while downloading copyrighted stuff).

Re: Winamp source code leak

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Post by alx__ »

cyber_kinetist wrote: post #19
caddywompus wrote: post #12

Interestingly enough, there has been a community project dedicated to keeping the last Winamp version alive (last version from the original creators), and it really great to use. https://getwacup.com/ It includes a skin that allows it to work on modern display resolutions. It's really interesting to see just how low-res screens were when it was in it's hey-day, given that they are nearly unusable on a 4k monitor. Edi…

For context, here's the new revamped(!) Winamp coming up soon: https://www.winamp.com/ It's just... the complete opposite of what Winamp was all about, and it's horrible and leaves a bad taste in your mouth (-100 points for the atrocious "modern" website which loads MBs of Javascript, screams BIG TEXT at you, hijacks your scroll wheel, and still tells you nothing about the actual software other than it will probably…

Looks like they copped the design styles from Sonos. Which is already meh

Re: Winamp source code leak

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Post by JasonFruit »

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #254
VortexDream wrote: post #240

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Yeah, but does it really whip the llama's ass?

In case you don't know, WinAmp borrowed that meme from the late, schizophrenic musician Wesley Willis. https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/2lepog/til_t... "McDonalds is a place to rock, It is a restaurant where they buy food to eat, It is a good place to listen to the music, People flock here to get down to the rock music." - Rock 'N Roll McDonalds "Batman beat the hell out of me and knocked me to the flo…

I didn't realize until today that Wesley Willis was also a visual artist[0], and surprisingly good.

[0]: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=wesley+willis+art&t=brave&iax=imag...

Re: Winamp source code leak

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Post by justinfrankel »

0des wrote: post #93
thedoctor_o wrote: post #75

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Then don't use it if you only want to use 100% OSS. I'm making something that I want to use (essentially a compatible implementation for my plug-ins to run under) & if it's of use to others then that's a bonus. At no point has WACUP claimed to be 100% OSS nor should I be expected to do that when I'm the only one working on my Winamp reimplementation. Aspects that need to be done that way are done so accordingly. -dro

Yikes, okay. I trust Justin Frankel, I don't know you, previous team or not.. The world can go on using Winamp 2.x forever and be just fine, its GRAS. If you're bringing something that isn't that, previous dev history or not, you're going to have to differentiate yourself from the folks who are also putting out winamp-alikes. I'm not trying to be a jerk, that's just the reality. Knowing what the code I'm running is d…

fwiw dro’s been around a long time and i would be inclined to trust them :)

Re: Winamp source code leak

#270

Post by quitit »

tombert wrote: post #55

Honest question, as someone who actually used Winamp back in ~2004: why would you want to use it now? I have some nostalgia for it, sure, but what exactly does it actually offer you that something like VLC doesn't? It seems like it plays my music and videos competently enough, and I don't know anyone who actually uses Shoutcast anymore. This isn't a passive aggressive dig or anything, I would actually like to know.

As it was written for an era of much slower hardware (I remember using it on a 100MHz machine) - it might be a good fit for something where that matters.
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