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Interestingly enough, there has been a community project dedicated to keeping the last Winamp version alive (last version from the original creators), and it really great to use. https://getwacup.com/ It includes a skin that allows it to work on modern display resolutions. It's really interesting to see just how low-res screens were when it was in it's hey-day, given that they are nearly unusable on a 4k monitor. Edi…

superb

also the classic modern skin is great

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I listened to my first MP3 ever (Creed's "Higher") in 1999 on Winamp. It really whipped the South American camelid's posterior. Dang. I'm old.

The first scene releases of mp3's were in 1996[0]. It was 1997 when things got rolling, just as Winamp was released. I recall then that even new PC's couldn't decode at full CD quality and you had to downscale. We also picked which songs to download locally based on their size Spiderbait's song "Calypso" was probably the most popular mp3 download in '97 since it was only 2.5MB and a lot of people just wanted to try t…

I think only the first versions of winamp used amp, it was replaced later. Interestingly, the old amp code can still be compiled and ran on modern systems with little modifications. I've did it a few months ago.

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I currently use 2.95 and see no reason to update. But I listen rarely mp3's in the last years.

Same here, using Winamp 2.95 on a HiDPI screen as my main audio player. The best feature that it seems no other player has reproduced yet is being able to hit the J key to do an instant search for a song, with 0 latency: the search narrows down the songs as fast as you hit the keys. But I've noticed that there are now a few files that sound scratch when played, perhaps they're 48 kHz or something...

Same thing in Clementine, except you don't even have to press J. Just type your search when the window is focused and the filter bar will catch the keys.

This can be disabled too.

Re: Winamp source code leak

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post #160

I listened to my first MP3 ever (Creed's "Higher") in 1999 on Winamp. It really whipped the South American camelid's posterior. Dang. I'm old.

The first scene releases of mp3's were in 1996[0]. It was 1997 when things got rolling, just as Winamp was released. I recall then that even new PC's couldn't decode at full CD quality and you had to downscale. We also picked which songs to download locally based on their size Spiderbait's song "Calypso" was probably the most popular mp3 download in '97 since it was only 2.5MB and a lot of people just wanted to try t…

> I recall then that even new PC's couldn't decode at full CD quality and you had to downscale.

I remember pentium 90's struggling to play mp3's on Win95/98 while at uni. They would play but you couldn't do much else otherwise they would stutter. Even minimizing and maximizing the mp3 player would cause stuttering.

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> you're going to have to differentiate yourself from the folks who are also putting out winamp-alikes. No one giving away software has to do anything. Maybe they'd get more donations as OSS or something, but it's no guarantee.

Yes, but nobody has to use their work. I'd assume that people who make general-purpose open-source software with the intent of it being used by someone other than themselves. So read the "have to" as "if you want to have people use and appreciate your work, this is a necessary step".

Which is definitely just that, an assumption. Some people write things just because they want to or can, and don't care whether anyone else finds it useful for their own purposes. It might just be something for a portfolio, to inspire others, etc, or again, just because. Lots of things are created "just because".

The decision is left to the end user, use it, or don't.

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This is the Horse-Hoarse merger. [1] > Accents that have resisted the merger include most Scottish, Caribbean, and older Southern American accents as well as some African American, modern Southern American, Indian, Irish, and older Maine accents. If my understanding is correct, in some accents that don't pronounce their "R"s at the end of words, the vowel shape changes slightly while pronouncing "four," but "fore" is…

Wiktionary sometimes comes handy in such musings, because it has IPA spellings and recordings of pronunciations, and marks the dialects—not always but frequently for more popular words. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fore https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/four The IPA suggests that pronunciations of the two words are identical both with and without the merger, but I'm no specialist.

Just dug a little deeper, and I've arrived at this conclusion:

In accents with the merger, "four," "for," and "fore" are all always homophones.

In accents without the merger, "four" and "for" are never homophones.

And in some subset of these non-merged accents, "fore" may be pronounced identically to "four" (as listed in the IPA guide in your first link). In another subset, it may be pronounced identically to "for" (as implied by the "Homophones" section in that same link).

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Honest question, as someone who actually used Winamp back in ~2004: why would you want to use it now? I have some nostalgia for it, sure, but what exactly does it actually offer you that something like VLC doesn't? It seems like it plays my music and videos competently enough, and I don't know anyone who actually uses Shoutcast anymore. This isn't a passive aggressive dig or anything, I would actually like to know.

> I don't know anyone who actually uses Shoutcast anymore. I don't know you, but I use a shoutcast based premium streaming service. Free tier has to use the official apps or the web. Winamp is still perfect for this; it loads quickly, my playlist has the couple of stations I want to listen to, etc. Foobar2000 works pretty well too, but llamas. VLC could work, but I don't think it starts as fast, and there are so many…

Fair enough! I haven't used it since I was a teenager to watch bootleg episodes of Love Hina and Aqua Teen Hunger Force (and other things that might appeal to a 15 year old boy), but I didn't mean to imply it was "dead" or anything.

Re: Winamp source code leak

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I currently use 2.95 and see no reason to update. But I listen rarely mp3's in the last years.

Foodbar 2000 FTW. https://www.foobar2000.org/ Tiny, fast, simple, does the job. There's an Android version too, which is my go-to audio player, because of its simplicity. Both FOSS.

Yeah, but does it really whip the llama's ass?
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