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Re: Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?

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Post by mindslight »

squiffsquiff wrote: post #37
rapsey wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So give it a network connection for initial setup then take it away?

So you'll still have all the adverts, they just don't update?

Buy it from a place with free returns. Then if it insists on showing cached ads after the network is pulled (or any other undesirable behavior), just return it. This won't help you find a better model, but it will save you from needing to research these obscure details in too much depth.

. o O ( I wonder if some hostile antifeatures go away if you buy a TV in the US but then activate it from an EU IP address ).

Re: Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?

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Post by bsedlm »

jjoonathan wrote: post #78
haunter wrote: post #32

4K monitors. You need a soundbar though or some kind of audio setup + remote. Also no built-in tuner or such but I assume you get a set top box from your service provider or use a streaming device (Apple TV, Fire stick etc.) 4K OLED https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=384002160&P=7 4K IPS https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=384002160&P=2 4K VA https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=384002160&P…

Why does (consumer) monitor tech always seem to lag TV tech by a few years? It looks like the situation is still that in the 4k OLED space there are a few ~$4000+ monitors and dozens of ~$1000 TVs. Per the pcpartpicker link, maybe the Gigabyte FO48U will change that, but it's still out of stock. Besides, I feel like this has happened before with HDR and 4k and IPS. First it shows up in TVs, a year later it is cheap i…

> Why does (consumer) monitor tech always seem to lag TV tech by a few years?

because there's more money to be made selling TVs than monitors?

consequentely, it's TV manufacturers pushing the entire display maker industry ahead? and so they get the newer tech first??

Re: Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?

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Post by wiskinator »

yupper32 wrote: post #52

Why don't people like their Smart TVs? I've had a 4k smart TV for years and love it. Being able to stream without needing my phone is great. It seems ironic that people are complaining about smart TV ads while the [2] link in the OP has an absolutely MASSIVE video ad that takes up 2/3s of the screen. And it's not like you're not being tracked when you stream from a Roku stick / Chromecast. Edit: I have a 4k Samsung t…

I mean, I think the why is answered in [1]. I think a lot of people like being in control of what goes on their network. For those who care about personal network security I imagine there's a big desire to not have a blob of closed source code sitting on (or anywhere near) their home network, or for that matter, their corporate network.

Also smart features on most TVs feel like they are fairly slow and seem to get in the way of using the TV as a device driven by a media stick etc. If I've decided that I only want to use an Apple TV (or Roku, or FireTV or my L33z plex client running on a Raspberry Pi), then I don't want to have to wait for my TV to load and boot its own network stack and pile of applications.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?

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Post by dmd »

runjake wrote: post #19
thoughtsimple wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a Roku that I block from the internet. It blinks an obnoxious red led to complain it can’t phone home. I need some gaffer’s tape to cover it up I guess.

This is what I did for my TCL Roku TV: just taped over the annoying blinking light. If enough people do this, I anticipate that in the next model, they'll replace that blinking light with an forced on-screen overlay.

I have a TCL Roku 6-series. If you do a factory reset, and from the start don't let it connect, then you won't get the blinking light.

You only get the blinking light if you take away access after having given it.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?

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Post by bee_rider »

yupper32 wrote: post #52

Why don't people like their Smart TVs? I've had a 4k smart TV for years and love it. Being able to stream without needing my phone is great. It seems ironic that people are complaining about smart TV ads while the [2] link in the OP has an absolutely MASSIVE video ad that takes up 2/3s of the screen. And it's not like you're not being tracked when you stream from a Roku stick / Chromecast. Edit: I have a 4k Samsung t…

Sure, but the hypothetical effortful version of myself that actually puts his money where his mouth is would play content he owns from a Linux machine. If that guy ever shows up, it'd be cool to have a TV he could use.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?

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Post by dncornholio »

austinshea wrote: post #66

Sceptre is fantastic for this. e.g. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sceptre-55-Class-4K-UHD-LED-TV-HD... Zero smart features, and all modern capabilities. It's also a TV, as opposed to a computer monitor, so it has the expected TV speakers and ports.

I could not find a product description. Stopped scrolling when I reached the related products and could not find a hyperlink in the sidebar. Is this just me stuck in old ways?

Re: Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?

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Post by brtkdotse »

jjoonathan wrote: post #78
haunter wrote: post #32

4K monitors. You need a soundbar though or some kind of audio setup + remote. Also no built-in tuner or such but I assume you get a set top box from your service provider or use a streaming device (Apple TV, Fire stick etc.) 4K OLED https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=384002160&P=7 4K IPS https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=384002160&P=2 4K VA https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=384002160&P…

Why does (consumer) monitor tech always seem to lag TV tech by a few years? It looks like the situation is still that in the 4k OLED space there are a few ~$4000+ monitors and dozens of ~$1000 TVs. Per the pcpartpicker link, maybe the Gigabyte FO48U will change that, but it's still out of stock. Besides, I feel like this has happened before with HDR and 4k and IPS. First it shows up in TVs, a year later it is cheap i…

TV manufacturers can offset the lower price by selling ads to show you on your “smart” tv

Re: Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?

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Post by caymanjim »

jjoonathan wrote: post #78
haunter wrote: post #32

4K monitors. You need a soundbar though or some kind of audio setup + remote. Also no built-in tuner or such but I assume you get a set top box from your service provider or use a streaming device (Apple TV, Fire stick etc.) 4K OLED https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=384002160&P=7 4K IPS https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=384002160&P=2 4K VA https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=384002160&P…

Why does (consumer) monitor tech always seem to lag TV tech by a few years? It looks like the situation is still that in the 4k OLED space there are a few ~$4000+ monitors and dozens of ~$1000 TVs. Per the pcpartpicker link, maybe the Gigabyte FO48U will change that, but it's still out of stock. Besides, I feel like this has happened before with HDR and 4k and IPS. First it shows up in TVs, a year later it is cheap i…

TV display quality is dogshit compared to monitors. Even cheap low-end monitors tend to have better displays. They aren't the same panels at all.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?

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Post by halfmatthalfcat »

haunter wrote: post #32

4K monitors. You need a soundbar though or some kind of audio setup + remote. Also no built-in tuner or such but I assume you get a set top box from your service provider or use a streaming device (Apple TV, Fire stick etc.) 4K OLED https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=384002160&P=7 4K IPS https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=384002160&P=2 4K VA https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=384002160&P…

It's amazing how much more expensive those are than traditional TVs, non-starter even.
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