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Re: Winamp source code leak

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Post by garaetjjte »

gmueckl wrote: post #15
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It depends on whether Github or Winamp can be arsed; given that it's been posted on HN now, they are probably on the trail now. Archive.org can't just ignore a DMCA takedown, that would threaten their safe haven status.

Winamp at this point in time is just a trademark that ended up at a Belgian company. And I think they want to use it to launch a music streaming service. The rest of Nullsoft went down with AOL. I wonder which party would even have the legal rights to move against such a source code leak.

They are claiming they have rights to the code too: "I am acting on behalf of AudioValley SA who currently owns the copyright to the Winamp code after a purchase from AOL."

Re: Winamp source code leak

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Post by firekvz »

cyber_kinetist wrote: post #19
caddywompus wrote: post #12

Interestingly enough, there has been a community project dedicated to keeping the last Winamp version alive (last version from the original creators), and it really great to use. https://getwacup.com/ It includes a skin that allows it to work on modern display resolutions. It's really interesting to see just how low-res screens were when it was in it's hey-day, given that they are nearly unusable on a 4k monitor. Edi…

For context, here's the new revamped(!) Winamp coming up soon: https://www.winamp.com/ It's just... the complete opposite of what Winamp was all about, and it's horrible and leaves a bad taste in your mouth (-100 points for the atrocious "modern" website which loads MBs of Javascript, screams BIG TEXT at you, hijacks your scroll wheel, and still tells you nothing about the actual software other than it will probably…

The browser on my pixel 6 crashed, haven't seen a site lag a phone for like 2 years

Re: Winamp source code leak

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Post by fps_doug »

marcodiego wrote: post #16

Interesting as a historic document. If someone is willing to port it to newer systems or compilers, also maybe of some value. I really don't see much value considering there are already reasonable good, lightweight (I think) and multi-platform (like qmmp) which offer support to winamp skins.

It's the same as the Opera Presto leak a few years ago. You cannot legally maintain or update, let alone distribute it. Back then you could find a few minor patches in Russian forums but that's about it. So even if there's people capable and willing to maintain it (which for a browser I think is an order of magnitude more work), there is no easy way to have a collaboration platform that also gives the project enough visibility, so motivation is pretty low.

Re: Winamp source code leak

#34

Post by antris »

caddywompus wrote: post #12

Interestingly enough, there has been a community project dedicated to keeping the last Winamp version alive (last version from the original creators), and it really great to use. https://getwacup.com/ It includes a skin that allows it to work on modern display resolutions. It's really interesting to see just how low-res screens were when it was in it's hey-day, given that they are nearly unusable on a 4k monitor. Edi…

The Fatboy Slim album art on the screenshots page... I definitely got taken back :')

Re: Winamp source code leak

#35

Post by cyber_kinetist »

firekvz wrote: post #32
cyber_kinetist wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For context, here's the new revamped(!) Winamp coming up soon: https://www.winamp.com/ It's just... the complete opposite of what Winamp was all about, and it's horrible and leaves a bad taste in your mouth (-100 points for the atrocious "modern" website which loads MBs of Javascript, screams BIG TEXT at you, hijacks your scroll wheel, and still tells you nothing about the actual software other than it will probably…

The browser on my pixel 6 crashed, haven't seen a site lag a phone for like 2 years

Yeah, the site also freezes my Firefox for 5 seconds, and this is from a gaming PC. Absolutely horrendous...

How hard you would actually have to try to make a website as horrible as this, this thing is just a meme.

Re: Winamp source code leak

#36

Post by Flockster »

cyber_kinetist wrote: post #19
caddywompus wrote: post #12

Interestingly enough, there has been a community project dedicated to keeping the last Winamp version alive (last version from the original creators), and it really great to use. https://getwacup.com/ It includes a skin that allows it to work on modern display resolutions. It's really interesting to see just how low-res screens were when it was in it's hey-day, given that they are nearly unusable on a 4k monitor. Edi…

For context, here's the new revamped(!) Winamp coming up soon: https://www.winamp.com/ It's just... the complete opposite of what Winamp was all about, and it's horrible and leaves a bad taste in your mouth (-100 points for the atrocious "modern" website which loads MBs of Javascript, screams BIG TEXT at you, hijacks your scroll wheel, and still tells you nothing about the actual software other than it will probably…

Wow, it made my Firefox stuck for a few seconds, opening it in a new tab. (So it wasn't viewable while loading).

Re: Winamp source code leak

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Post by haunter »

MrGilbert wrote: post #2

I'm afraid that, at one point in time, a DMCA takedown might backfire at the archive. I mean, it has been taken down on Github, but it's of course available at archive.org - it would hurt the internet as a whole if the archive needs to close it's doors. Hopefully that will never happen.

I never get how Archive.org can get away with... everything? Like every single console game is there. Nintendo is very famous to take down ROM sites yet their full library is on Archive.org. And that's Nintendo only, all the PS1, PS2, PS3 games and the whole Xbox/360 catalog is there as well. It's crazy

In some aspect Archive.org is better than some private torrent trackers

Re: Winamp source code leak

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Post by kiallmacinnes »

MrGilbert wrote: post #2

I'm afraid that, at one point in time, a DMCA takedown might backfire at the archive. I mean, it has been taken down on Github, but it's of course available at archive.org - it would hurt the internet as a whole if the archive needs to close it's doors. Hopefully that will never happen.

I'm not 100% sure of all the details, but archive.org has some exceptions[1] to the DMCA & thanks to California, it's officially considered a library - which again, I believe gives it some more leeway on the DMCA.

[1]: https://archive.org/about/dmca.php

Re: Winamp source code leak

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Post by 0des »

caddywompus wrote: post #12

Interestingly enough, there has been a community project dedicated to keeping the last Winamp version alive (last version from the original creators), and it really great to use. https://getwacup.com/ It includes a skin that allows it to work on modern display resolutions. It's really interesting to see just how low-res screens were when it was in it's hey-day, given that they are nearly unusable on a 4k monitor. Edi…

Somewhat worrying that I can't seem to find the source code for WACUP listed anywhere, checked their website, discord, and github. I'd feel a lot better about using it if I could see the source code. Currently using Audacious with a Winamp Classic skin.

Re: Winamp source code leak

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Post by echelon »

fps_doug wrote: post #10
Sosh101 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't work

Does work

Sorry for bringing the thread completely off topic, but your username triggered a tinge of nostalgia for something I haven't seen referenced or thought of in a long while.

Is your username a reference to the mid-2000s pre-youtube video series, "Pure Pwnage"?

That's right before the Internet became dominated by platforms. EzBoard was taken over by phpBB, Invision, etc. Blogs.

Sorry, I need to turn off the nostalgia. Fitting that this happens in a Winamp thread, though.

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