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The origins of ‘horn ok please,’ India’s most ubiquitous phrase (2016)

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Re: The origins of ‘horn ok please,’ India’s most ubiquitous phrase (2016)

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post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's somewhat common among truck drivers in Germany to flash the turn signals left-right-left-right to say "thank you" after overtaking (another truck).

Is that saying thanks? I thought they were just fumbling with the blinker control.

yes, that's saying thanks. It's equivalent to the hazard lights, but in some vehicles the hazard lights button isn't very accessible.

Re: The origins of ‘horn ok please,’ India’s most ubiquitous phrase (2016)

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post #85

Different cultures have different unwritten behaviours on roads. In the mountains of Italy, drivers give a short honk before entering a turn on a serpentine road, which usually can't be seen around. If there is no responding honk, they will take the full width of the road (making the very tight turn easier and faster). Tourist drivers have to pick up on this :) In much of Europe oncoming cars flash their lights to wa…

>In the mountains of Italy, drivers give a short honk before entering a turn on a serpentine road, which usually can't be seen around. If there is no responding honk, they will take the full width of the road (making the very tight turn easier and faster). Tourist drivers have to pick up on this :)

It seems like it should be illegal (and also partly suicidal) to go into the opposing lane in a situation where you cannot see if there is an approaching car. You're relying on someone in an opposing lane hearing and understanding your horn, for relatively little gain, and potentially fatal results.

Any situation where you can do everything 'perfectly' and you have a significant chance of dying or killing someone because someone else doesn't notice is a good situation to avoid.

If you hit someone's car under these circumstances it would be criminally negligent in my opinion.

Re: The origins of ‘horn ok please,’ India’s most ubiquitous phrase (2016)

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No where in the article do they even try to ask the people who own or paint these words on the vehicles? Speculation throughout and not a shred of input from any of the people actually involved (Drivers, Lettering painters, police..).

Conclusion: none! We don't know and didn't ask either.

Really weird article.

Re: The origins of ‘horn ok please,’ India’s most ubiquitous phrase (2016)

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post #6

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"Indian drivers rarely use their side mirrors" Doesn't matter if the mirrors are there or not if culturally people don't use them.

I experienced confusion about this when I travelled to Indonesia some years ago, but a local taxi driver made it easy to understand: "What's in front of you is your responsibility." It's an unwritten local driving rule and once you know it, the local traffic is considerably easier to grok. No one looks behind them because everyone's agreed that they only worry about things in front of them. If you want to pass a car…

Also, it’s easier to understand when you see the relative speeds of traffic and the relative lack of safety.

Re: The origins of ‘horn ok please,’ India’s most ubiquitous phrase (2016)

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post #85

Different cultures have different unwritten behaviours on roads. In the mountains of Italy, drivers give a short honk before entering a turn on a serpentine road, which usually can't be seen around. If there is no responding honk, they will take the full width of the road (making the very tight turn easier and faster). Tourist drivers have to pick up on this :) In much of Europe oncoming cars flash their lights to wa…

I always hear/read about the speed trap warning. In motorcycle circles, IIRC tapping the top of your helmet is that same warning. I haven't ever actually seen either of those in practice, though. Motorcyclists do usually wave at each other, or sometimes point at the road with a foot or two fingers, just as a greeting. The one I do see (in the USA anyway) is flashing your high beams to let a semi truck know they have…

I feel like Waze has killed the high beams flashing warning, although I miss it. It sounds crazy as a say it out loud, but the signals between drivers always gave me warm feelings of some kind of community with other drivers. Now everyone on the road seems much more internally absorbed or focused. Cars are quieter, podcasts instead of radio, etc. While they were never very common, CB radios were also less rare in cars (we always had one for road trips and both my grandparents had one in on all the time in their cars).

Re: The origins of ‘horn ok please,’ India’s most ubiquitous phrase (2016)

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post #85

Different cultures have different unwritten behaviours on roads. In the mountains of Italy, drivers give a short honk before entering a turn on a serpentine road, which usually can't be seen around. If there is no responding honk, they will take the full width of the road (making the very tight turn easier and faster). Tourist drivers have to pick up on this :) In much of Europe oncoming cars flash their lights to wa…

>In much of Europe oncoming cars flash their lights to warn others about dangers and (especially) speed traps or police checks, so they can slow down in time. >Here in Lithuania, flashing your warning lights (the four orange ones on the corners of the car) means thanks,

Those behaviours are common in Ireland too

Re: The origins of ‘horn ok please,’ India’s most ubiquitous phrase (2016)

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> A reminder that pretty much no lorry driver in india knows English. They live in India -- why would they need to know English exactly?

IIRC English - Indian English, not British or American - is the second language of the most people in India. Otherwise, they have so many local languages they would be mutually incomprehensible. But everyone learns English, and so they can talk and do business.

And IIRC Hindi is supposed to do that but it doesn't always work out in the south (local nationalism among other things?).

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A reminder that pretty much no lorry driver in india knows English. Vehicles here have inane phrases like this and it’s for the most part almost protocol to paint them when you get a vehicle of that class. The guy who paints Lorry backs with the company name probably asks “you want the horn ok please phrase right” and the drivers probably like yeah whatever. Not like the drivers here expect courtesy from anyone aroun…

> A reminder that pretty much no lorry driver in india knows English. They live in India -- why would they need to know English exactly?

Among the other answers don't forget the British Empire.

Re: The origins of ‘horn ok please,’ India’s most ubiquitous phrase (2016)

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post #82

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As someone who lives in the countryside and have multiple roads like you describe, I can comfortably say nobody honks the horn on blind corners nor narrow roads. Maybe it is like this on other English counties but I've not seen that to be the case when travelling either. Official or correct usages aside, the more typical usage for horns in England are: + impatience. eg a car going to slow and the driver behind is a d…

Indeed, I've seen the horn-on-corners thing mentioned a few times in this thread and I think it's dangerous: - If the road is hilly, there is a significant amount of rock and soil between you and an opposing car and the sound will be quite muted as it has to diffuse around the corner. - If the other driver has their window up and/or their radio on then they won't hear it at all. - People who are hard of hearing can a…

It also runs on the assumption that the only people on the road are car drivers. But you might get tractors, cyclists, hikers / runners, horse riders etc. Even people just casually out for a walk with their family. And a lot of these types of roads might not have footpaths either.

Re: The origins of ‘horn ok please,’ India’s most ubiquitous phrase (2016)

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post #114

My theory has been a little different. IIRC Horn and Please are written on the two sides asking the tailing vehicle to blow the Horn. And the OK comes from the OK word written on the bumper (in the middle) by the manufacturer. This was a requirement as far as back in the 80s (may be even earlier) to stamp the OK (on the lines of OK TESTED) I guess. People got habituated into reading Horn OK Please and the integrated…

This is mentioned in the article but it's strange to me because I've been in heavy truck factories in India and 80% of the vehicles are produced without a truck bed or cabin. They are simply sold frame-only. Apparently the trucking companies prefer to build their own wooden beds/bays and cabins, which is cheaper anyways. I have to assume this is also true in the past but maybe not?

The OK part is stamped on the back endmost part of the chassis itself.
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