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Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by libertine »

rayxc wrote: post #582

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A lot of ignorance here.

The current measures in place are simply preventive, more in the lines of caution and unnecessary spread, mainly to save our Public Health Service from overdrive and spare medical professionals that are exhausted at this point in time. We don't want to have unnecessary stress that hurts the whole health system, and compromises other health services.

The vaccines are working exceptionally well in Portugal!

Look at the hospitalizations[0] and death[1] numbers compared to last year, with the added noted that we had basically 0 measures since April.

We're only vaccinating with the 3rd jab people over 65, and people with weakened immune systems.

[0]https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/current-covid-patients-ho...

[1]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explor...

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by Mistletoe »

mathverse wrote: post #605
namanaggarwal wrote: post #578

For those commenting that it's just common cold and about herd immunity, I think we should not miss out on overload on our medical system. This is what happened in India, due to high number of cases (even if mild) the medical infrastructure completely crashed under the load and lead to far more deaths than just a flu could have caused. Wear mask and stay indoors if possible

I am sorry but no. I have already lost 2 years of my life just following and obeying the orders. Enough is enough. This is not on me to solve. The government had enough time to convince everyone to vaccinate or prepare the healthcare sector for influx of cases of unvaccinated.

It’s wild how few campaigns I am seeing for vaccination. I want 1950s era propaganda posters on every street corner and at every tv and radio break until we get these numbers to 100%.

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by mathverse »

timmf wrote: post #617
incrudible wrote: post #586

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Wear mask and stay indoors if possible For all we know about transmission, you should stay outdoors, if possible. If this isn't possible, maximize ventilation. Limit contacts in general. Masks have a very modest impact on transmission.

I do agree with all your points, except: > Masks have a very modest impact on transmission They are an effective measure which has lead to significant decrease in infection rates. There are of course parameters like the type of mask.

How many people are even using those masks correctly? There's a lot of people going around with old and contaminated masks or wearing them improperly.

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by Dumblydorr »

mathverse wrote: post #605
namanaggarwal wrote: post #578

For those commenting that it's just common cold and about herd immunity, I think we should not miss out on overload on our medical system. This is what happened in India, due to high number of cases (even if mild) the medical infrastructure completely crashed under the load and lead to far more deaths than just a flu could have caused. Wear mask and stay indoors if possible

I am sorry but no. I have already lost 2 years of my life just following and obeying the orders. Enough is enough. This is not on me to solve. The government had enough time to convince everyone to vaccinate or prepare the healthcare sector for influx of cases of unvaccinated.

How was the government supposed to convince anti-vaxxers to do what they believe contains micro chips or what they believe is worse than the virus itself? This isn't on the government, this is on anti-vaxxers for swallowing garbage information, hook line and sinker.

And you didn't lose 2 years of your life. You're alive, you didn't die due to the pandemic, did you? That's much less than can be said for 5 million others, mostly older or unhealthy to begin with. They're dead because people didn't follow the guidelines early and it kept spreading and spreading.

So, be grateful you're not dead, and do your part to increase collective resilience.

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by smallerfish »

incrudible wrote: post #586
namanaggarwal wrote: post #578

For those commenting that it's just common cold and about herd immunity, I think we should not miss out on overload on our medical system. This is what happened in India, due to high number of cases (even if mild) the medical infrastructure completely crashed under the load and lead to far more deaths than just a flu could have caused. Wear mask and stay indoors if possible

> Wear mask and stay indoors if possible For all we know about transmission, you should stay outdoors, if possible. If this isn't possible, maximize ventilation. Limit contacts in general. Masks have a very modest impact on transmission.

> Masks have a very modest impact on transmission.

False.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7883189/

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by mrtesthah »

vaylian wrote: post #603
incrudible wrote: post #586

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Wear mask and stay indoors if possible For all we know about transmission, you should stay outdoors, if possible. If this isn't possible, maximize ventilation. Limit contacts in general. Masks have a very modest impact on transmission.

> Masks have a very modest impact on transmission Do you have a source for that?

Certainly if you wear loose fitting cloth masks like most people I see; they need to be FFP2-rated or N95, tight-fitting, and sanitized (heat, ozone, or UVC, etc.) or replaced between uses.

Otherwise in general, they do work.

https://www.kxan.com/news/coronavirus/do-face-masks-work-her...

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by chimprich »

mpfundstein wrote: post #594
shlant wrote: post #576

good twitter thread that provides a level-headed perspective based on what we actually currently know: https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/146422268073182004...

why should we trust this weird twitter account? where is this person even from? She/he says senior scientist? Of what?

She's a well-known commentator on the pandemic. She is/was involved in the development of the Moderna vaccine, verified by various media orgs.

She's a credible commentator, but she tends to skew towards the positive end of the arguments. That thread is 3 days old, and there's a bit more evidence now that Omicron is spreading quite effectively.

Re: Update on Omicron

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Post by crimsoneer »

vaylian wrote: post #603
incrudible wrote: post #586

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Wear mask and stay indoors if possible For all we know about transmission, you should stay outdoors, if possible. If this isn't possible, maximize ventilation. Limit contacts in general. Masks have a very modest impact on transmission.

> Masks have a very modest impact on transmission Do you have a source for that?

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj-2021-068302

It's probably about a 10% reduction in incidence. Which I guess is quite modest in comparison to, say, vaccines.

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