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Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

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Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

#101
This is great just to get standard video controls. I mostly don't mind YouTube ads, except for two things: 1) they allow ads significantly longer than the ad break, forcing you to interact to skip the ad (i.e. all those stupid music videos as ads), and; 2) Text ad pop over the video content. Their entire business is showing us videos we want to watch, and they cover it with a text ad overlay. Its like they want to go out of business.

I also don't like that ads are spliced in at inopportune times, breaking the flow of many videos.

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

#102

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> Fortunately, there is no truth of the matter, so anything goes as long as we're internally consistent. I don't think that what you said is internally consistent. Now, we may disagree about exactly what you mean, but it sounds like you are putting forth some form of moral relativism, which has appeared in various forms over the millennia. Many ways of phrasing moral relativism have logical inconsistencies in them. I…

To quote Stephen Fry, moral relativism is just another way of saying "thinking". Morals can come from culture, they can come from religion, or they can come from individual contemplation. Morals are axioms. The one thing we can say for sure about them is that nobody agrees on what they should be. Saying that advertising is a pest that should be actively removed is not even an uncommon viewpoint. The city of Sao Paolo…

Please provide clarification: is something "relative" if people disagree on it? If there are two different interpretations of a single data set, for example, does it mean that the reality of what that data means is "relative" or just that one or both interpretation don't have enough information (or appropriate understanding of it)?

Basically, I want to know what "relativism" actually means to you since your quote seems to imply that anything you think about is "relative". Thank you, I'm excited to hear your response.

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

#103

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I don’t necessarily think ad funded content is bad. But YouTube seems to do it the worst. 2 ads at the start, sometimes they can’t be skipped. Ads in between at weird places. Now there are 2 ads at the end too. Spotify is ok. Ads. Bunch of uninterrupted songs. Ads. Like radio. Many Anime streaming services are similar. Ads bookend the content. YouTube could have spent time curating good content and building a platfor…

Would you consider paying for YouTube and Spotify instead? Both are available ad-free.

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Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

#104
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Yeah, that’s unfortunate that we have to trust developers to that extent. OTOH, it is true that they could get a lot of information once we give them the right to inject some JavaScript in every webpage we load. Personally, I have enabled it only on YouTube so they should not be able to touch the rest.

How do you enable an extension (this one) ONLY on youtube?

System Settings / Safari / Extensions / Vinegar

Set “all websites” to “deny”

Visit YouTube.com. Run the extension from the puzzle icon in the address bar, give it permission for “allow on this website”

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

#105
post #12

Installed this and it's great. That said, it's embarrassing how many iOS extensions I have installed just to work around today's shitty websites. AdGuard to make the web usable, AMPlosion to avoid AMP nonsense, Open in Apollo to avoid mobile Reddit dark pattens, now this (which I installed because YouTube's new embed widget starts playing on touch-start instead of touch-release, so it triggers while scrolling...)

> it's embarrassing how many iOS extensions I have installed just to work around today's shitty websites The user-hostile design of web sites in 2021 is appalling. Even simple text articles or blog posts have become horrible. I was just reading a blog post linked from HN which featured 3 different popups: two modals and a modeless sidebar popup that follows you as you scroll. No, I don't want to subscribe to your ema…

Ah, and then the 'allow push notifications', 'allow this website to access your location' and so on. Utterly ridiculous for just a visitor to go after them in such an aggressive way, and a surefire way to get me to never visit that particular website again.

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

#106
post #12

Installed this and it's great. That said, it's embarrassing how many iOS extensions I have installed just to work around today's shitty websites. AdGuard to make the web usable, AMPlosion to avoid AMP nonsense, Open in Apollo to avoid mobile Reddit dark pattens, now this (which I installed because YouTube's new embed widget starts playing on touch-start instead of touch-release, so it triggers while scrolling...)

> it's embarrassing how many iOS extensions I have installed just to work around today's shitty websites The user-hostile design of web sites in 2021 is appalling. Even simple text articles or blog posts have become horrible. I was just reading a blog post linked from HN which featured 3 different popups: two modals and a modeless sidebar popup that follows you as you scroll. No, I don't want to subscribe to your ema…

I refuse to believe those newsletter popups ever get any interaction apart from clueless people who think you need to fill them out so they go away.

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

#107
This is worth it even just for removing the so annoying play on scroll behaviour! I have YouTube Premium and still feel the need for it.

Also, $2 feels just right for these medium effort apps. Unfortunately people still complain about it not being free. When I asked $2 for a macOS app [0] where I worked for a bit more than a month, people got offended by it.

Coding the app logic is just a small part of launching an app, there's also presentation websites, privacy policies, icons, graphics, instructing the user how to use your app if it's something more unique, and the most time consuming of all: handling edge cases.

[0] https://lowtechguys.com/rcmd

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

#108
post #101

This is great just to get standard video controls. I mostly don't mind YouTube ads, except for two things: 1) they allow ads significantly longer than the ad break, forcing you to interact to skip the ad (i.e. all those stupid music videos as ads), and; 2) Text ad pop over the video content. Their entire business is showing us videos we want to watch, and they cover it with a text ad overlay. Its like they want to go…

I really get the sense YouTube’s business model isn’t getting users to watch videos, it is to get users to watch something else at all times. I created several custom filters to disable the litany of suggestions that pop up at every opportunity.

There’s this constant onslaught of suggestions. An icon in the top right of the player during playback, a modal that appears when you hit pause showing other videos, the sidebar full of clickbait, and other incessant recommendations. I don’t know how the average user puts up with it.

Re: Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's embarrassing how many iOS extensions I have installed just to work around today's shitty websites The user-hostile design of web sites in 2021 is appalling. Even simple text articles or blog posts have become horrible. I was just reading a blog post linked from HN which featured 3 different popups: two modals and a modeless sidebar popup that follows you as you scroll. No, I don't want to subscribe to your ema…

I refuse to believe those newsletter popups ever get any interaction apart from clueless people who think you need to fill them out so they go away.

I’m pretty sure the process works like this:

1. Someone makes a good newsletter and reports high engagement

2. Anecdotes circulate in the pre-alchemy world of marketing

3. Everyone tells their boss they’ll get great engagement if they launch a newsletter, omitting the “if we do the hard part of producing good content”

4. Nobody remembers that if they’d put good content on their website people would have read it there, too.

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