It baffles me that Fauci etc didn't mention this in the next breath after hand washing and masking. It's easy during nice weather.
Why don’t we just open the windows? Covid-19 prevention lost in translation
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Re: Why don’t we just open the windows? Covid-19 prevention lost in translation
#12To this day, there is no mandate whatsoever in any public transport to keep windows open. NiH? CDC?
Missing in action thanks a lot.
Uber could simply ask customers to always ask for windows down.
This to me is the biggest unsung crime of the pandemic by govt officials and private industry alike.
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#13Good ventilation is easy to do in the summer months, but it is winter in the northern hemisphere at the moment, and fuel prices are at all time highs. That means adequate ventilation is likely an expensive thing to achieve. Not to mention the environmental consequences of extra energy consumption, along with the plastic pollution from littered masks and lateral flow tests - they’re absolutely everywhere.
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#14They already solved this in NYC and Chicago with extra hot radiators by windows. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-05/the-curio... The “spent breath” of the occupants of poorly ventilated homes contributed to 40% of the deaths in the country, he claimed, and often said “man’s own breath is his greatest enemy.” He would spend decades promoting the cause, designing ventilation schemes for buildings, penni…
Reminds me of The Lost Art of Steam Heating by Dan Holohan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQB0KK2rxcw
Re: Why don’t we just open the windows? Covid-19 prevention lost in translation
#15> The world is finally coming to terms with the realization that transmission of SARS-CoV-2 is airborne It's funny. The world is definitely a place we are willing to let 5 million people die. But we are definitely not allowed to have a single study where we have 1 definitely infected person stand in an air sealed room for 1 hour 6 feet away with someone not infected. Don't get me wrong, I have been wearing a blue 3M…
You’re volunteering?
If it’s very infectious one may get it anyways. But doing it in the study would be virtuous, and maybe pay too. If it was a serious study I could do it
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#16> The world is finally coming to terms with the realization that transmission of SARS-CoV-2 is airborne It's funny. The world is definitely a place we are willing to let 5 million people die. But we are definitely not allowed to have a single study where we have 1 definitely infected person stand in an air sealed room for 1 hour 6 feet away with someone not infected. Don't get me wrong, I have been wearing a blue 3M…
You’re volunteering?
It is rumored there have been 'infection parties'.
Re: Why don’t we just open the windows? Covid-19 prevention lost in translation
#17> The world is finally coming to terms with the realization that transmission of SARS-CoV-2 is airborne It's funny. The world is definitely a place we are willing to let 5 million people die. But we are definitely not allowed to have a single study where we have 1 definitely infected person stand in an air sealed room for 1 hour 6 feet away with someone not infected. Don't get me wrong, I have been wearing a blue 3M…
> But we are definitely not allowed to have a single study where we have 1 definitely infected person stand in an air sealed room for 1 hour 6 feet away with someone not infected
Why not? Studies like that are a thing. And facts don't shut down hate as much as you think they do.
https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2021/09/11/...
(behind paywall, but there was also free The Intelligence podcast episode about it around that time too)
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#18> The world is finally coming to terms with the realization that transmission of SARS-CoV-2 is airborne It's funny. The world is definitely a place we are willing to let 5 million people die. But we are definitely not allowed to have a single study where we have 1 definitely infected person stand in an air sealed room for 1 hour 6 feet away with someone not infected. Don't get me wrong, I have been wearing a blue 3M…
There were some rather convincing case studies even early in the pandemic -- for instance, one news story from March 2020 identified a choir rehearsal as a superspreader event:
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-03-29/corona...
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#19This agrees with my intuitive impression of everything I've read on Covid-19: that the primary transmission vector is through the being in unventilated or poorly ventilated enclosed spaces with an infected person for ~15 minutes or longer. I definitely feel like neither governmental policies or people's individual precautions and behaviours quite reflect that reality.
Medical policy always seems to float around various ideas before they really grab hold. It maybe shouldn't but it takes time it seems.
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#20Good ventilation is easy to do in the summer months, but it is winter in the northern hemisphere at the moment, and fuel prices are at all time highs. That means adequate ventilation is likely an expensive thing to achieve. Not to mention the environmental consequences of extra energy consumption, along with the plastic pollution from littered masks and lateral flow tests - they’re absolutely everywhere.
I'm sorry but this is unacceptable.
We have shut down entire industries, made some people 2nd class citizens, and wrote blank checks to healthcare companies to solve this problem,
and your concern is lost heat and the environment ?
Any common sense government would have mandated open windows a long time ago, in most transportation systems and in federal buildings that could bear it, instead we wasted valuable time with politics