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So are they going to have this person or persons man the pit indefinitely? I see they have some automated measures like the propane cannon but at some point shouldn’t they just put a net on top of the whole pit to keep birds off it?
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If you put acid in a gut you have just more acid. Why we don't "cook from inside" each day then? This birds live and nest in the tundra; not a place short of acid soils and acid water. Again, why they don't dissolve resting all day in permafrost mud? So maybe they should consider a different explanation? Lack of food in tired migrant birds?, because nothing grows in that waters... plus poisons in water. Lead maybe?.…
Lol before making your rant, you should know they don't shoot the animals, the shoot near them to scare them away.
I saw this video yesterday and one thing I wondered was, why isn't the company legally, and thus financially and criminally, held responsible for this disaster? If I as an individual dump a bunch of toxic waste, especially something that kills thousands of animals, then I would be held responsible in a vice grip-like manner. I never understand why if something is done by a company, or individual with large wealth, bu…
BP is responsible for cleaning up the site, at an estimated cost of $150M. They're responsible because they bought ARCO, which had acquired the site from the original mining company.
They're the ones who built the water treatment plant that's shown in the Tom Scott video that someone linked to, and either they or Montana Resources (a mining company) are paying for everything shown in this video too.
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> If you put acid in a gut you have just more acid. Why we don't "cook from inside" each day then? If you reflux a lot, it'll scar your mouth and esophagus. That the stomach is built to handle acid doesn't mean the tubes leading to it necessarily are.
Good point. A problem that is mitigated if you are herbivorous, and chomp all day a lot of grass and other things that contain calcium, like goose do. Aquatic birds can deal or at least understand the concept of extreme conditions in water. You will not see a flamingo dissolving, and they live in extreme alkaline waters. They know were is time to go. In any case there are several solutions that would put an end to th…
It's an abandoned copper mine. I suspect they're aware. It's a Superfund site.
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Lol before making your rant, you should know they don't shoot the animals, the shoot near them to scare them away.
The effects of lead pellets in marshes as bird mass poisoner is a well known problem in ecology. They are worsening the problem.
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Lol before making your rant, you should know they don't shoot the animals, the shoot near them to scare them away.
The effects of lead pellets in marshes as bird mass poisoner is a well known problem in ecology. They are worsening the problem.
I saw this video yesterday and one thing I wondered was, why isn't the company legally, and thus financially and criminally, held responsible for this disaster? If I as an individual dump a bunch of toxic waste, especially something that kills thousands of animals, then I would be held responsible in a vice grip-like manner. I never understand why if something is done by a company, or individual with large wealth, bu…
Because the company in the video -- Atlantic Richfield Company, aka ARCO -- acquired the pit in 1977 only to shut it down in 1982 after discovering what a white elephant it was. The company that actually dug the thousands of miles of tunnels and later the pit was Anaconda Copper (one of the most rapacious, amoral corporations to ever exist) which went belly up in 1983. Anaconda Copper made fortunes for the usual susp…
So are they going to have this person or persons man the pit indefinitely? I see they have some automated measures like the propane cannon but at some point shouldn’t they just put a net on top of the whole pit to keep birds off it?
More typical is having the taxpayers foot the bill, like with the fascinating example of Giant Mine, 5km outside of Yellowknife, the capital of Canada's Northwest Territories. Some 200 kilotonnes of arsenic trioxide were created as byproducts of the mining process, enough arsenic dust to kill off every human and animal on earth. Once the company (and the company that bought the company) that mined the gold went belly up, the government is stuck footing the bill for remediation.
The remediation plan is to indefinitely freeze, using compressors like used for hockey rinks, the arsenic underground. An eternal, ongoing operation, costing >$1bn, costing more in present-day dollars than gold was even extracted from the mine, in order to avoid the arsenic seeping into the groundwater.
Kind of hilarious the implicit bet on a stable society that this remediation plan entails.
I saw this video yesterday and one thing I wondered was, why isn't the company legally, and thus financially and criminally, held responsible for this disaster? If I as an individual dump a bunch of toxic waste, especially something that kills thousands of animals, then I would be held responsible in a vice grip-like manner. I never understand why if something is done by a company, or individual with large wealth, bu…
Who said they simply get away with it? BP is responsible for cleaning up the site, at an estimated cost of $150M. They're responsible because they bought ARCO, which had acquired the site from the original mining company. They're the ones who built the water treatment plant that's shown in the Tom Scott video that someone linked to, and either they or Montana Resources (a mining company) are paying for everything sho…
Wouldn't that mean moving the toxic stuff to some other part of the environment?