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My friends Instagram was hacked and deep-fake videos posted in less than 6 hours

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Re: My friends Instagram was hacked and deep-fake videos posted in less than 6 hours

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Fortunately, that's not something the current company Meta would allow to happen. That sounds like something that only Facebook would let fall through the cracks.

I can't tell if you are joking but I desperately hope you are.

A nice illustration of Poe's law :) I'm pretty sure it's a joke :D

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

Re: My friends Instagram was hacked and deep-fake videos posted in less than 6 hours

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This happened to my wife too and her IG profile was used to create a deepfake on onlyfans

How does these scammers get their hands on the money? Doesn't Onlyfans require photo ID and personal banking details?

You'd be surprised at how many people upload pictures showing their id to public sites. And even if it's not that, then it might be an inside job by a family member, friend, co-worker, etc who had once enough access to the id to snap a pic of it.

Also, chances are that if you can convincingly create deepfakes in general you can (deep)fake a picture of an id to a degree it will be accepted by OnlyFans and other services, especially if these ids are from places the staff might not be entirely familiar with. Do you know for example what a Columbian or Polish or Turkish or Cambodian id should look like and what security features that you could see on a mere picture of it should be present, if there are even such features?

I've seen such id fakes done in practice, though that wasn't related to OnlyFans. That's why when I was in a position where I sometimes had to verify identities, I would not accept pictures of ids, I would ask for a "proof-of-life"/"timestamp" style pictures you see commonly used on pseudonymous sites like reddit or 4chan to establish authenticity of a poster. Those are not impossible to fake, but a lot harder, especially if you limit the time in which the other party can respond.

I don't know if OnlyFans adopted such a method of verification by now, but I know they used to accept just ids.

I also online-know a guy who says he used to run an OnlyFans scam where he would seek out underrated accounts, steal their content and republish it under his own accounts. That obviously required he create a lot of verified accounts with valid ways to pay out, of course. He never went into details on that. He could be lying about the thing, but when it came to other things he claimed over the years, a lot of it was verifiable true, so I don't know.

You can also buy verified OnlyFans accounts on the black market (hacked usually) or compromise accounts yourself. A lot of OnlyFans accounts are completely inactive, abandoned by the original owners, so they will probably not even notice if it gets taken. From there you can replace all the account content as you please, and I believe in the case of OnlyFans even change the user name and probably update the payout method and information as well.

As for banking information... that's harder, but there are probably some ways left. The question is if the OnlyFans account in this case was even made for financial gain, or just to cause humiliation, in which case subscriptions might have been free or the money might have never been collected by whoever created the account.

Re: My friends Instagram was hacked and deep-fake videos posted in less than 6 hours

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If you are using a random password generator, don't be doing 12 character lol. Do 20+

Yeah, true. I do 64 on default, except the service doesn't allow it, then I'll do the max allowed characters.

Be care with that! I've created accounts in the past with a 40+ random character password and everything went swimmingly. Until I tried to log in. Bzzzt! Couldn't get in.

Apparently the password had a character limit that wasn't mentioned when signing up and was silently truncated server-side. A bit of investigation showed the had maxlength="20" which is only enforced when typing characters. When using Javascript to fill a form will just ignore this attribute. https://codepen.io/jspash/pen/XWerVzY

Re: My friends Instagram was hacked and deep-fake videos posted in less than 6 hours

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Yeah, true. I do 64 on default, except the service doesn't allow it, then I'll do the max allowed characters.

Be care with that! I've created accounts in the past with a 40+ random character password and everything went swimmingly. Until I tried to log in. Bzzzt! Couldn't get in. Apparently the password had a character limit that wasn't mentioned when signing up and was silently truncated server-side. A bit of investigation showed the had maxlength="20" which is only enforced when typing characters. When using Javascript to…

I've noticed my bank doing shenanigans in order to prevent password managers from working well. It appears to be JS scripts that uppercase or lowercase the input field after posting but before the browser saves it. So it perpetually looks like I'm updating my password when I'm not. It literally just got populated by the browser.

Re: My friends Instagram was hacked and deep-fake videos posted in less than 6 hours

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Example from a news story. After seeing the video, I must admit I’m not sure if I believe the guy or not, which is scary. Edit: Better link from deadmutex below - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqr0oER03SE https://www.wfla.com/8-on-your-side/better-call-behnken/inst...

Yeah. It's almost like the post is a scam and we are all being duped into promoting the non-deepfake crypto scam.

Re: My friends Instagram was hacked and deep-fake videos posted in less than 6 hours

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Can anyone guess what exactly the hackers want with a particular person's IG? Why don't they just auto/synthetically generate a fake face if they just want to sell or scam something? Is it to exploit the person's friend network?

This news report had a musician guy's IG taken over and deep fake videos of him and his voice telling people to get bitcoins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqr0oER03SE

not deepfaked but recently some solana sales pitch took over lots of unrelated youtube accounts, it took youtube a good week or so to get them sorted

Re: My friends Instagram was hacked and deep-fake videos posted in less than 6 hours

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Probably inside job at IG tbh. Multiple reports over the years of desirable IG usernames being taken from legit users and handed to the friends of IG employees

I remember Facebook used to let any dev access the whole production DB as an effort to "remove red tape" and allow quick solutions to problems. That lack of red tape resulted in multiple stories of employees using that privilege to stalk people in real life.

This is why most of the FB security infrastructure is actually inward-facing. The actual infra is so complex that it would take an outsider quite a while to figure out how to get the data they might want. For an insider is it much easier to get improper access to data that you want or that someone might pay you for (real name or ip addr of a dissident, who your ex-girlfriend is now sleeping with, advising ad scammers on how to avoid detection, celebrity chats and private pics, etc.) The initial problems back in the day were the employee stalkers, but as the platform became more important the threat model changed to nation states compromising insiders. The red tape is not completely back, but as of five or so years ago there was a lot more monitoring of data access patterns and zero-trust gates on certain bits of data. OTOH, it meant that privacy and actual app security ended up falling into shit (a devsecops model where the head of privacy and security was someone completely unqualified for the role but ready to do whatever Zuck et al asked) but you win some and you lose some...

Re: My friends Instagram was hacked and deep-fake videos posted in less than 6 hours

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I work really closely on deep fake tech [1] and I'd say I'm relatively current with the state of the art in the literature. This was not deepfaked. The person recorded it themselves and is lying. The video quality is too good. The lighting and movements lack mistakes. It can't be first order model, wav2lip, or any of the relatively new audio to video models. The audio doesn't suffer from spectral noise, and it matche…

I agree. I think the most telling sign is the hand gesture for the number 3 when he says "just invested 300 bucks". Don't think Deepfake models can understand intent yet.

Pay attention to the hand. His index finger is turned inwards, that would be a very odd “number 3 gesture”. More likely random hand movement from the video used.

Re: My friends Instagram was hacked and deep-fake videos posted in less than 6 hours

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Exactly. If private keys were that much better for the average, shouldn't some common services use them now?

Private keys are used to upload code to github. It's not about what's "better" but about what users are willing to tolerate. The average user has a very high tolerance for login bullshit, repeated captchas, etc. -- if the site has a monopoly on the social network you need to access.

And yet, even Github has passwords. Even Github uses passwords as primary. Along with millions of other sites. This isn't about what a few large companies do. It's about what works for most people.

Private keys, as appealing as they are in theory, don't really work from a user perspective. The closest thing that seems to be popular is 2FA keys like YubiKeys.

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