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>The online world should not be a wild west where bots and bigots and trolls and others are anonymously going around and can harm people I can't express how much I hate this. The online world SHOULD be a wild west, away from government reach, in my opinion.
>The online world SHOULD be a wild west, away from government reach, in my opinion. I would agree to an extent, but I think there are a few examples where the government should step in. Child porn being the biggest.
Scott Morrison made a big deal of his intention to use the recent meetings between world leaders to build an international consensus around this issue. Instead, he was humiliated when the president of France called him out as a liar over his mishandling of submarine contracts, and no one wanted to talk to him.
A very partisan take I think.
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> There is an incestuous relationship between the media and the politicians this is indeed correct, but then you say >hat party is almost always the conservative LNP, if you're ever wondering why Australia has such a prominent right-wing authoritarian streak, know that the Murdoch media has a dominant print market share, a monopoly on cable TV, and a large majority of the free to air TV market is ideologically aligne…
Wow, there's a lot of incorrect info in that comment! Which free to air TV channels are left leaning? Wasn't it the federal government that introduced the recent draconian surveillance laws? Wasn't it Peter Dutton who famously inflamed racial tension in Melbourne by blaming "African gang violence"? I think you may have consumed a little too much of that Murdoch press!
>The online world should not be a wild west where bots and bigots and trolls and others are anonymously going around and can harm people I can't express how much I hate this. The online world SHOULD be a wild west, away from government reach, in my opinion.
The online world has been, from its inception, a foundation for creativity, knowledge, entertainment, communication, and so much more. When a malicious party recognizes the power of the online world and starts to abuse it for their own gain, if you TRULY support all that is the online world, you shouldn't allow such parties to exist.
In other words, it's pathologically stupid to allow freedom of expression to be exploited against freedom of expression.
If you're not flexible, you break at the slightest bent.
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> There is an incestuous relationship between the media and the politicians this is indeed correct, but then you say >hat party is almost always the conservative LNP, if you're ever wondering why Australia has such a prominent right-wing authoritarian streak, know that the Murdoch media has a dominant print market share, a monopoly on cable TV, and a large majority of the free to air TV market is ideologically aligne…
Wow, there's a lot of incorrect info in that comment! Which free to air TV channels are left leaning? Wasn't it the federal government that introduced the recent draconian surveillance laws? Wasn't it Peter Dutton who famously inflamed racial tension in Melbourne by blaming "African gang violence"? I think you may have consumed a little too much of that Murdoch press!
Because of mandatory voting, Australia is one of the very few countries in the world where the government has real democratic legitimacy. A very large percentage of the population votes, voting is easy, the voting systems are preferential and reasonably fair, and so a majority of the voting population actually did vote for the government of the day. The Australian system is certainly not without its issues, but it is…
The state of Australian politics is a complete and utter shambles. Every single Australian should be thoroughly embarrassed by this. In my opinion mandatory voting is up there among the very worst, most destructive forces any democracy has undergone.
In terms of destructive forces in Australian politics, I think the lack of media diversity is far and away the greatest threat to our country - far ahead of requiring the governed to have a say in who governs them.
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Wow, there's a lot of incorrect info in that comment! Which free to air TV channels are left leaning? Wasn't it the federal government that introduced the recent draconian surveillance laws? Wasn't it Peter Dutton who famously inflamed racial tension in Melbourne by blaming "African gang violence"? I think you may have consumed a little too much of that Murdoch press!
ABS and SBS are far, far left wing. Channel 7,9,and 10 are centrist, but 7 leans left, 9 leans right. 10 is interesting because it currently has one of the most left wing shows on TV (The Project) but also used to have one of the most right-wing shows (The Bolt Report), so I guess I'll put them in the center to be fair.
No-one tell Scott Morrison that the bots and trolls are all promoting the cause of his side of politics :S Own goal anyone? Also his stupid religious discrimination act is worse (or at least as bad) as this stupid law. This is like the stupid movement from conservatives in the US against "big tech" despite the fact that social media manipulation is a core part of their political strategy, and they're against governme…
> [regulation of social media] > muddied with libertarianism Right.
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Yeah that's a pretty fair assessment of the state of play here in Oz, and I'll add the point that most Australians have no idea this stuff is occurring. The media landscape in Australia is extremely consolidated, to the degree that there are only a few major media players, and they are almost completely aligned in their agenda and messaging. There is an incestuous relationship between the media and the politicians -…
> There is an incestuous relationship between the media and the politicians this is indeed correct, but then you say >hat party is almost always the conservative LNP, if you're ever wondering why Australia has such a prominent right-wing authoritarian streak, know that the Murdoch media has a dominant print market share, a monopoly on cable TV, and a large majority of the free to air TV market is ideologically aligne…
I think left-wing hatred is such a potent force that comments sections get dominated by these people and we get a very skewed view of things.
As you mentioned, thankfully the mainstream has too much commonsense and doesnt take it seriously.
No-one tell Scott Morrison that the bots and trolls are all promoting the cause of his side of politics :S Own goal anyone? Also his stupid religious discrimination act is worse (or at least as bad) as this stupid law. This is like the stupid movement from conservatives in the US against "big tech" despite the fact that social media manipulation is a core part of their political strategy, and they're against governme…
Everyone thinks the other side is bots and trolls. This is necessary to nominally believe in democracy but also think you should always get your way. Easy if you are always in the majority and the other side only looks like it has support because of "bots and trolls."