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Inside Chrome: The Secret Project to Crush IE and Remake the Web

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Re: Inside Chrome: The Secret Project to Crush IE and Remake the Web

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I fear that in practice it won't dent IE at all and only hurt Mozilla.

totally disagree. the day will come very soon when you will be able to run heavy apps like Google Earth in Chrome - and we all know that you will NEVER be able to do that in Explorer.

Now, maybe Google Earth is not enough to make people switch, but 1 Internet user in 5 is already using Firefox with no marketing budget and no branding (vs Google being the #1brand in the world)

And if Google Earth is not enough, what about porn with no buffering? :)

Re: Inside Chrome: The Secret Project to Crush IE and Remake the Web

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Woah! I had no idea about the "application" feature of Chrome! That is so simple, yet so ingenious! Try this: Go to Gmail, then when it's loaded, in the top right in Chrome go to Page -> Create App Shortcut and choose a location (say the Desktop). Then go to the location, and "open" the application. It's like an actual Windows app!

Woah! I had no idea about the "application" feature of Chrome! That is so simple, yet so ingenious! It's a feature in the next version of Safari as well: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wyctim/2568406483/ It's sorta funny because in the past people complained about sites hiding browser chrome and rejoiced when browsers let you disable that Javascript feature; now it's reversed and we're excited to be able to view sites…

When sites hide chrome, it's bad. When apps do it, it's good. The obvious difference is that (most) webapps don't use the browser chrome e for anything anyway, so removing it just makes the design less confusing and cluttered. Not to say that apps shouldn't make the chrome work for them....

Re: Inside Chrome: The Secret Project to Crush IE and Remake the Web

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post #12

I fear that in practice it won't dent IE at all and only hurt Mozilla.

totally disagree. the day will come very soon when you will be able to run heavy apps like Google Earth in Chrome - and we all know that you will NEVER be able to do that in Explorer. Now, maybe Google Earth is not enough to make people switch, but 1 Internet user in 5 is already using Firefox with no marketing budget and no branding (vs Google being the #1brand in the world) And if Google Earth is not enough, what a…

google earth has worked in internet explorer since May. http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2008/05/google-earth-meet...

Re: Inside Chrome: The Secret Project to Crush IE and Remake the Web

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post #8

Woah! I had no idea about the "application" feature of Chrome! That is so simple, yet so ingenious! Try this: Go to Gmail, then when it's loaded, in the top right in Chrome go to Page -> Create App Shortcut and choose a location (say the Desktop). Then go to the location, and "open" the application. It's like an actual Windows app!

Great feature. Unfortunately, Adobe have a patent ( http://www.patentgenius.com/patent/5546528.html ) on dragging tabs to create new windows. They filed suit against Macromedia over it in 2000 ( http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/2000... ). Hopefully Adobe will be good sports this time...

Safari has had the "drag tab for a new window" feature for a few years, and Apple hasn't had any problems... yet. Of course I doubt Adobe would want to mess with Apple, or Google for that matter.

Re: Inside Chrome: The Secret Project to Crush IE and Remake the Web

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I fear that in practice it won't dent IE at all and only hurt Mozilla.

In practice, they have the Google home page to promote it...which is perhaps the only thing that can make a dent against something like IE which comes with the OS.

It will likely affect Mozilla, though for the moment it doesn't look like it, since they have extended their partnership for 3 more years. http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10028096-93.html .Though it will be interesting what will happen in that time.

Re: Inside Chrome: The Secret Project to Crush IE and Remake the Web

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great feature. Unfortunately, Adobe have a patent ( http://www.patentgenius.com/patent/5546528.html ) on dragging tabs to create new windows. They filed suit against Macromedia over it in 2000 ( http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/2000... ). Hopefully Adobe will be good sports this time...

Safari has had the "drag tab for a new window" feature for a few years, and Apple hasn't had any problems... yet. Of course I doubt Adobe would want to mess with Apple, or Google for that matter.

Indeed, many of these amazing new innovations that people are ascribing to Chrome have been there in Safari/Webkit for a while.

Re: Inside Chrome: The Secret Project to Crush IE and Remake the Web

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Woah! I had no idea about the "application" feature of Chrome! That is so simple, yet so ingenious! Try this: Go to Gmail, then when it's loaded, in the top right in Chrome go to Page -> Create App Shortcut and choose a location (say the Desktop). Then go to the location, and "open" the application. It's like an actual Windows app!

You know that Prism does this pretty well as well ;)

Re: Inside Chrome: The Secret Project to Crush IE and Remake the Web

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Sorry I've just listened to a clip of the voiceover artist Don LaFontaine (RIP) and couldn't help but read this in his voice -

"And it's an aggressive move destined to put the company even more squarely in the crosshairs of its rival Microsoft, which long ago crushed the most fabled browser of all, Netscape Navigator."

Re: Inside Chrome: The Secret Project to Crush IE and Remake the Web

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that's an interesting theory... but in the greater realm of the internets, how many people really use adblock, and is it really making a dent in advertising (compared to the likes of click fraud & link farms)?

More and more people are turning to plugins that restrict and/or disable scripts and third-party content like AdBlock Plus and NoScript--not to block ads, but for security reasons. I think Google wants to fix the security problems in a different way so that their Javascript- and third-party-domain- based utilities can function.

By "more and more" do you mean your fellow technology-literates?

I just want to point out that I've seen numbers for Linux desktop penetrations ~1%. I doubt that many people know (or care) what scripts are at all.

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