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Smoking a turkey with Prometheus, Home Assistant, and Grafana

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Re: Smoking a turkey with Prometheus, Home Assistant, and Grafana

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Post by gorgoiler »

Very nice, though with a 200lb ceramic bbq like the BGE — and with the caveat that your lid gasket isn’t shot — you can leave it ticking over at 300F for hours, unattended. Big poultry in particular is dead simple because the giant breasts mean they cook as slowly as the legs, unlike a chicken where the breast will overcook by the time the thighs are done. Take it off when it’s at 140F and let it sit for an hour. My food coma today is testament to my partners ability to pull this off.

With a kamado, always fill the firebox up with lots of fuel and get the whole thing hot before use. This is the key to a long, controlled burn.

Control system integration is much more useful if you have a cheap steel drum with crappy sealing and a sub optimally designed firebox. You cheap out on the grill and compensate for it with active control systems.

Kind of like a trebuchet vs a sniper rifle. Upgrade your throwing rocks with ESP32 terminal guidance and you’ll be able to knock a guy off his horse just as good as the latter. Or something.

Re: Smoking a turkey with Prometheus, Home Assistant, and Grafana

#43

Post by palae »

sweenycod wrote: post #36
palae wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's suppose that in a country far, far away, there is a holiday called Givingthanks where instead of turkeys, dogs are eaten. Your alter ego in that country could then write the exact same comment than you did, replacing 'turkey' with 'dog'. We would read things like: 'It could be argued that our abstinence of industrial dog consumption is the ethical way to justify the one I eat on Givingthanks' or 'Givingthanks d…

The argument was directly related to the original claim of "genocide" and had nothing to do with the consumption of animals in general. I was saying that by consuming one turkey per year I am hardly contributing to the extinction of an animal. Dogs are consumed in other countries such as Nigeria and the practice is only taboo in primarily western cultures. This has historical and cultural implications. Like I said, j…

Fair enough, my question was hinting at the fact that most people don't seem to be morally consistent between turkeys and (for example) dogs.

As for the breakdown in logic, you said this in your first comment:

'Your appeal to emotion using (incorrect) words like "genocide" and "needless slaughter" suggest a strong ideology and lack of objectivity [...]'.

Unless I'm reading that wrongly, you're saying that "needless slaughter" is 'incorrect', and I'm curious to know why that is, as to me this is a completely correct statement.

Re: Smoking a turkey with Prometheus, Home Assistant, and Grafana

#44

Post by blockloop »

gorgoiler wrote: post #41

Very nice, though with a 200lb ceramic bbq like the BGE — and with the caveat that your lid gasket isn’t shot — you can leave it ticking over at 300F for hours, unattended. Big poultry in particular is dead simple because the giant breasts mean they cook as slowly as the legs, unlike a chicken where the breast will overcook by the time the thighs are done. Take it off when it’s at 140F and let it sit for an hour. My…

I pretty much perfected my smokes over a decade of practice so I could sleep and leave it alone all night, but some part of my subconscious kept me awake all night, thinking something is wrong. I would wake up and check the remote every 2h or so and, despite the fact that everything was fine, I never got over it. Once I hooked up the Guru I slept like a baby. It's likely because of my experience with my cheap smokers back when I started in 2010 that required constant attention. Either way, the most benefit I gained from this setup is recording smokes for future reference. It'll help me plan a lot better.

Re: Smoking a turkey with Prometheus, Home Assistant, and Grafana

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Post by blockloop »

fierro wrote: post #42

Reading about this home-assistant thing -- why do you need an OS dedicated to the "home automation" use case? Isn't home automation simply an application level use case? Hard for me to see why we'd want a new OS/kernel for this.

It's not an OS, it's software. I run it in a container. You can run their prefab OS if you want, but I do not.

Re: Smoking a turkey with Prometheus, Home Assistant, and Grafana

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Post by simcop2387 »

fierro wrote: post #42

Reading about this home-assistant thing -- why do you need an OS dedicated to the "home automation" use case? Isn't home automation simply an application level use case? Hard for me to see why we'd want a new OS/kernel for this.

It's a linux distro that's been setup to simplify managing the updates, backups, and configuring the application. It's running all the bits inside docker containers.

Re: Smoking a turkey with Prometheus, Home Assistant, and Grafana

#47

Post by 127 »

blockloop wrote: post #45
fierro wrote: post #42

Reading about this home-assistant thing -- why do you need an OS dedicated to the "home automation" use case? Isn't home automation simply an application level use case? Hard for me to see why we'd want a new OS/kernel for this.

It's not an OS, it's software. I run it in a container. You can run their prefab OS if you want, but I do not.

I'm running the virtual image because for some reason the addon repository doesn't support containers.

For what should just be a simple Python script and a Zigbee stick+driver, is for some reason this eldritch monstrosity (albeit with a nice interface).

Re: Smoking a turkey with Prometheus, Home Assistant, and Grafana

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Post by alsuren »

We have a similar setup in our house, but with bluetooth, mqtt(homie) and influx feeding into grafana ( cloudbbq-homie, with mijia-homie and homie-influx for the non-meat-related bits ).

I will have to tell my housemate about your setup - we have a bunch of 433mhz light switches hooked up to our system, but they're currently connected via an esp32 in a slightly ugly way. That usb dongle sounds like a much better solution to that problem.

As an aside, we are also currently using OpenHAB to make the bridge to Google Assistant when we want to trigger actions. My housemate is currently in the process of ripping it out, and replacing it with something that he's working on in rust, using axum. I would give you a link, but I can't remember what is called, and GitHub is down.

Re: Smoking a turkey with Prometheus, Home Assistant, and Grafana

#49

Post by gorgoiler »

blockloop wrote: post #44
gorgoiler wrote: post #41

Very nice, though with a 200lb ceramic bbq like the BGE — and with the caveat that your lid gasket isn’t shot — you can leave it ticking over at 300F for hours, unattended. Big poultry in particular is dead simple because the giant breasts mean they cook as slowly as the legs, unlike a chicken where the breast will overcook by the time the thighs are done. Take it off when it’s at 140F and let it sit for an hour. My…

I pretty much perfected my smokes over a decade of practice so I could sleep and leave it alone all night, but some part of my subconscious kept me awake all night, thinking something is wrong. I would wake up and check the remote every 2h or so and, despite the fact that everything was fine, I never got over it. Once I hooked up the Guru I slept like a baby. It's likely because of my experience with my cheap smokers…

Gathering data is a joy in itself, as is hacking. It’s a fun project :)

why? …because it’s there

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