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Re: EmacsConf 2021 – Live Now

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Post by convolvatron »

taeric wrote: post #36
noir_lord wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wrong type of free I think.

Fair, I actually did assume that it costs money to put some videos up on twitch. In other ways, though, I'm not actually clear that they lock you in much. Such that I'm not sure how it is any less free than most any other alternative. Consider, it is basically the idea to use the town hall to host a local event.

except that its _not_ a public facility, and I dont see why we have to admit that kind of ambiguity just so that someone else can make a buck off of our work.

serving video is essentially free as in beer, and I'm pretty sure the FSF can afford to stand up a server.

i dont know why people are so eager to involve these services in their lives - i assure you, you can hold your own dick when you pee - its not that bad.

Re: EmacsConf 2021 – Live Now

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Post by josteink »

seanw444 wrote: post #20
chaoz_ wrote: post #11

I might ask a dumb questions - but why is this conf not streamed on Twitch? It could help acquire new audience.

To BeetleB's point, Emacs is free and open source software. I'm sure they wouldn't want to use a non free and open source network/streaming service to deliver the video.

I fully agree with that.

But I’d appreciate it they streamed in formats I could play on my iPhone.

Does anyone have a direct video-link I can pass to VLC?

Re: EmacsConf 2021 – Live Now

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Post by 7kay »

robertbmenke wrote: post #37

I love the emacs philosophy. Doom emacs with evil mode is a gorgeous experience. However, once LSP and a few plugins are running it's just too slow to use. I hope one day we'll have a multi-threaded version of emacs that can compete with VSCode, JetBrains, and Xcode.

Do you use the native-comp branch of emacs? This probably doesn't make any difference when it comes to multithreading but it should make the experience a bit more smooth.

Re: EmacsConf 2021 – Live Now

#45

Post by taeric »

convolvatron wrote: post #41
taeric wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair, I actually did assume that it costs money to put some videos up on twitch. In other ways, though, I'm not actually clear that they lock you in much. Such that I'm not sure how it is any less free than most any other alternative. Consider, it is basically the idea to use the town hall to host a local event.

except that its _not_ a public facility, and I dont see why we have to admit that kind of ambiguity just so that someone else can make a buck off of our work. serving video is essentially free as in beer, and I'm pretty sure the FSF can afford to stand up a server. i dont know why people are so eager to involve these services in their lives - i assure you, you can hold your own dick when you pee - its not that bad.

Ignoring where crowds are is a touch silly.

Re: EmacsConf 2021 – Live Now

#46

Post by agumonkey »

taeric wrote: post #16
smitty1e wrote: post #13

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Python proper is terrible for analyzing data at scale. It's the numpy, scipy, jupyter tools, as well as Anaconda, that make the sale. Too, it's not just the analysis, but the extract/transform/load (ETL) beforehand. Python's general purpose wealth of tools had me transforming the FCC antenna coverage .zip[1] to shapefile and parking it in a spatialite file for QGIS in a relative jiffy. Doubtless I could do all that i…

I argue that what makes the sale, is that that is what so many in the field are using. Not much inherent to the technologies, but you are taking on a daunting task if you want to compete with pytorch, instead of using it.

But we can assume people got on python/numpy stack because it brought some value compared to R. I'm not a big fan of numpy but I find it a bit shallow to think it's mostly follower effect at play. It might be though.. but that would be sad. Maybe Julia will bring balance back in the universe.

Re: EmacsConf 2021 – Live Now

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Post by BeetleB »

convolvatron wrote: post #41
taeric wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair, I actually did assume that it costs money to put some videos up on twitch. In other ways, though, I'm not actually clear that they lock you in much. Such that I'm not sure how it is any less free than most any other alternative. Consider, it is basically the idea to use the town hall to host a local event.

except that its _not_ a public facility, and I dont see why we have to admit that kind of ambiguity just so that someone else can make a buck off of our work. serving video is essentially free as in beer, and I'm pretty sure the FSF can afford to stand up a server. i dont know why people are so eager to involve these services in their lives - i assure you, you can hold your own dick when you pee - its not that bad.

> except that its _not_ a public facility

While town halls are public facilities, most rental halls are decidedly not. I think that was the point of the comment: If they were holding this event in person, would they refuse to do it in most facilities?

> i assure you, you can hold your own dick when you pee - its not that bad.

Comments like this are flamebait and, as an observer, quite unwarranted in this thread.

Re: EmacsConf 2021 – Live Now

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Post by natrys »

clircle wrote: post #31
natrys wrote: post #23

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I have been a happy R + ESS (Emacs Speaks Statistics) user for a while now. I think ESS also supports python, I have no personal experience with that though. But I can agree that whenever I am forced to use Jupyter notebooks, it feel awfully unergonomic in comparison.

Strongly Agree! ESS is an incredible environment for statistical work, but I don't think it supports Python. There is some minimal support for Julia, but it's not quite as well supported as R.

Ah, looks like you are right and indeed ESS doesn't support python, a shame. As for Julia, I think a package that is shaping up to be interesting and along the same spirit is: https://github.com/gcv/julia-snail

Re: EmacsConf 2021 – Live Now

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Post by hprotagonist »

taeric wrote: post #45
convolvatron wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

except that its _not_ a public facility, and I dont see why we have to admit that kind of ambiguity just so that someone else can make a buck off of our work. serving video is essentially free as in beer, and I'm pretty sure the FSF can afford to stand up a server. i dont know why people are so eager to involve these services in their lives - i assure you, you can hold your own dick when you pee - its not that bad.

Ignoring where crowds are is a touch silly.

thankfully, people will post links.

Re: EmacsConf 2021 – Live Now

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Post by taeric »

BeetleB wrote: post #47
convolvatron wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

except that its _not_ a public facility, and I dont see why we have to admit that kind of ambiguity just so that someone else can make a buck off of our work. serving video is essentially free as in beer, and I'm pretty sure the FSF can afford to stand up a server. i dont know why people are so eager to involve these services in their lives - i assure you, you can hold your own dick when you pee - its not that bad.

> except that its _not_ a public facility While town halls are public facilities, most rental halls are decidedly not. I think that was the point of the comment: If they were holding this event in person, would they refuse to do it in most facilities? > i assure you, you can hold your own dick when you pee - its not that bad. Comments like this are flamebait and, as an observer, quite unwarranted in this thread.

Yeah. That is exactly what I had in mind.
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