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Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

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Re: Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

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>vaccine developer >Chair of ...Maryland's Newest Anthropomorphic Convention! Not sure how I feel about this. Are many vaccine developers also furries?

Furries come from a broad cross-section of civilization, though tech has outsized representation as a profession. It's highly likely someone you know and respect is a furry.

I've run into us in surprising places. It's amusing to me when a fandom connection saves the day ;-)

Re: Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

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But they're a biologist? Cosmic forces are outside their field, unlike a physicist who believes in perpetual motion.

Biologists have to know statistics. Horoscopes are evidently impossible to anyone who knows basic statistics, if the generic fortunes weren't evident enough.

Are they? If the newspaper says Pisces is going to have a good day and Libra is going to have a bad day, I feel I'd have to ask way more people than I'm likely to meet to determine whether it's true or not. I don't know why you'd say it's evidently impossible.

Re: Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

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You mean like we learned to live with the far more deadly (at least initially) influenza? As your body increasingly comes in contact with it you’ll build a solid immunity. Similar to the other mRNA viruses such as RSV (dangerous to babies, but almost no one else).

If Covid had occurred in 1918, it would likely have had a much higher CFR than H1N1 - no supplemental oxygen available at that time.

Lol the number one indicator of having a severe case of covid19 is being overweight and a diabetic — likely being >60.

Gotta say I think you’re wildly incorrect there. Influenza impacted the young and still does.

Re: Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

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Influenza didn't kill 5+ million people in two years.

You're off by a factor of 10, it killed 50 million in 1918-1920, 1-4 million in 1957-1958, 1-4 million again in 1968-1969, 700k in 1977, 100-200k in 2009.

That’s also not population adjusted.

Re: Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

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I know 5 people personally that have died of this virus, forgive me if I take offense at your hand waving of it

That doesn't mean any of these NPI's work, are ethical, or are worth their immense cost to society. It is entirely possible to "take this serious" but feel that society is causing itself far more harm with all these measures than it would have by doing absolutely nothing at all. None of these thing were in any playbook prior to march of 2020. And here we are almost a month from 2022 still working from this unwritten,…

Masks are cheap and simple with no drawbacks. Ventilation is easy in many cases. Keeping one's distance costs nothing (which is not the be-all of social distancing, I agree). Vaccines are free.

These are all ethical, very effective and cost the individual almost nothing.

Enforcing social distancing is complex and incurs costs. For outdoor venues it seems to be less effective. What other methods are causing far more harm than good, far more harm than doing nothing?

Re: Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

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> Will people ever get over sensationalism and learn to live it? You see, that's the crux of the matter: Not everyone can live with it. Literally. So far, it killed more than 5 million people globally. There is also the issue with possibly lasting brain damage (even occuring in cases that weren't severe enough for hospitalization) and life-wrecking long covid. Compassionate people have a problem ignoring all that.

Assuming you're going to live for 50 more years from today, wasting a year of your life is only worth it if it prevents a 2% chance of death.

Multiplied by however many hundreds of people one encounters over a year, perhaps your numbers need work.

Re: Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

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But they're a biologist? Cosmic forces are outside their field, unlike a physicist who believes in perpetual motion.

Biologists have to know statistics. Horoscopes are evidently impossible to anyone who knows basic statistics, if the generic fortunes weren't evident enough.

I've seen people with masters degrees in biology who are young earth creationists and don't believe in evolution. Never underestimate the ability of the human mind to form into the shape of a Klein bottle.

Re: Classification of Omicron (B.1.1.529): SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern

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Imagine there was a fire near where you live, constantly spreading and endangering lives in your community. Would you say people can just "learn to live it"?

Imagine being given almost 2 years to build capacity to put that fire out so the community could go back to normal life but instead zero additional capacity was built? Hospitals had almost 2 years to build capacity. Where is it? Why is society being asked to continue bailing out institutions that have had an enormous amount of time to prepare?

Hospitals are Covid hotspots. Lots of transmission. We need isolation center capacity
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