Why would you have a fake certificate as getting your first dose, and in most cases, second dose is already possible around the world?
Antivaxxers want to be able to enter places where a QR code is required, but don't want to get vaccinated.
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#12Why would you have a fake certificate as getting your first dose, and in most cases, second dose is already possible around the world?
Because getting injected with Bill Gates' microchips will mess up my 5g reception. And I'm all about cutting edge phone technology combined with Middle Ages medical understanding.
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#13Why would you have a fake certificate as getting your first dose, and in most cases, second dose is already possible around the world?
Antivaxxers want to be able to enter places where a QR code is required, but don't want to get vaccinated.
Or they’ve already had it and want the same freedoms as those vaccinated?
ONS study on infection/reinfection during the delta period over the summer charts 5 to 8 show previous infection is as good as or in some cases better than the vaccines.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthan...
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#14Why would you have a fake certificate as getting your first dose, and in most cases, second dose is already possible around the world?
Antivaxxers want to be able to enter places where a QR code is required, but don't want to get vaccinated.
On the one hand, certainly to gain access to areas where non-vaccers actually have no access.
But I think that a big motivation is also to feel superior to the authorities, that want to give you the feeling of an unalterable proof of vaccination through cryptography.
If a citizen who is critical of the state actions now has the opportunity to deceive them, self-satisfaction will develop.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Antivaxxers want to be able to enter places where a QR code is required, but don't want to get vaccinated.
Or they’ve already had it and want the same freedoms as those vaccinated? ONS study on infection/reinfection during the delta period over the summer charts 5 to 8 show previous infection is as good as or in some cases better than the vaccines. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthan...
Sure - but if they really want to go their local bar, you can either expose your computer to dark web to buy a certificate, or just go and get a free shot…
Whilst your comment is factual, I think it doesn’t make sense in the context. The barrier to purchasing a certificate off the dark web is high and require a fair amount of financial and personal conviction / exposure…
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#16Just to share some news from my country: there are increasing numbers of people entering ICU, while having fake certificates. Latest death was of a 27yo "vaccinated".
What country? Also not sure if the answer will be too technical but how do they determine if someone who has a certificate doesn’t really have the vaccine?
There are many (thousands?) of criminal cases currently open in Romania for doctors forging certificates for 2-300 Euros - emptying the dose in the sink and issuing a "vaccinated" certificate. So the certificate is totally valid as far as the system goes (but just like Blockchain, depends on real-world trust to actually function).
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
What country? Also not sure if the answer will be too technical but how do they determine if someone who has a certificate doesn’t really have the vaccine?
The cert should have a date, location, signature, and maybe even a dose identification - all of which can be checked against the database of whomever supposedly administered it.
Please see my sibling comment.
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What country? Also not sure if the answer will be too technical but how do they determine if someone who has a certificate doesn’t really have the vaccine?
The cert should have a date, location, signature, and maybe even a dose identification - all of which can be checked against the database of whomever supposedly administered it.
It seems I was overthinking how to verify things and forgot that databases exist. Although I might have assumed that the vaccine certificates are checked as they enter the hospital (at least here in my country).
Also never occurred to me that someone in the ICU will show a certificate or pretend to be vaccinated (at that point what do you get?).
Not sure if I’m missing standard social cues or something more obvious with my questions.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
What country? Also not sure if the answer will be too technical but how do they determine if someone who has a certificate doesn’t really have the vaccine?
The cert should have a date, location, signature, and maybe even a dose identification - all of which can be checked against the database of whomever supposedly administered it.
in some countries actual vaccine is used, and all paperwork is in check, you pay 25 euro to the doctor, they squirt the vaccine in the sink and you get a cert
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or they’ve already had it and want the same freedoms as those vaccinated? ONS study on infection/reinfection during the delta period over the summer charts 5 to 8 show previous infection is as good as or in some cases better than the vaccines. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthan...
Sure - but if they really want to go their local bar, you can either expose your computer to dark web to buy a certificate, or just go and get a free shot… Whilst your comment is factual, I think it doesn’t make sense in the context. The barrier to purchasing a certificate off the dark web is high and require a fair amount of financial and personal conviction / exposure…
You can also bribe a doctor/nurse to "vaccinate" you, no barrier here.