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Re: Vulnerabilities in chips in 37% of smartphones

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Post by baybal2 »

mschuster91 wrote: post #5
melony wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are good and reliable, but they are not cutting age. The Toyota to M1's Ferrari. There is no point for Intel to acquire them when right now what Intel needs above all is tech and manufacturing advancements.

> what Intel needs above all is tech and manufacturing advancements. Intel needs a reliable door into the phone industry. Currently they don't have anything to offer and people will think twice before choosing Intel chipsets if it's not sure Intel will even stay in the market. Acquiring MediaTek would bypass that.

> Intel needs a reliable door into the phone industry.

Intel had 100 reliable doors in the past, and they foregone all of them.

Even today, Intel would have no problem making something well sellable.

Re: Vulnerabilities in chips in 37% of smartphones

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Post by baybal2 »

tgv wrote: post #30
kumarski wrote: post #7

The time for open source chips is now. Efabless.com

I, too, consider it naive to think that a relatively unorganized bunch of people are going to make good chips, write good drivers and support the whole lot for free, and deliver a product that's competitive. There's so much stacked against it. Case in point: Linux on the desktop.

> I, too, consider it naive to think that a relatively unorganized bunch of people are going to make good chips,

It's naive to thing that relatively unorganized bunch of people wrote the most popular OS in existence.

Re: Vulnerabilities in chips in 37% of smartphones

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Post by mdp2021 »

tgv wrote: post #30
kumarski wrote: post #7

The time for open source chips is now. Efabless.com

I, too, consider it naive to think that a relatively unorganized bunch of people are going to make good chips, write good drivers and support the whole lot for free, and deliver a product that's competitive. There's so much stacked against it. Case in point: Linux on the desktop.

> Linux on the desktop

You mean it's fully doable and going to become a standard in practice for our peers?

Re: Vulnerabilities in chips in 37% of smartphones

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Post by mdp2021 »

jacquesm wrote: post #10
ginko wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d much prefer Toyota’s sales to Ferrari’s.

And Toyota's reliability, pricing, parts availability, practicality and comfort.

(Yes, ) But without the current privacy policies, thanks. (Context: I was informed two years ago, by resellers, that Toyota was sending data from the cars to their own servers - just this very capability embedded in the car already some find completely unacceptable - and that they intended to demand the signature of agreements loose about privacy.)

Re: Vulnerabilities in chips in 37% of smartphones

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Post by tgv »

baybal2 wrote: post #32
tgv wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I, too, consider it naive to think that a relatively unorganized bunch of people are going to make good chips, write good drivers and support the whole lot for free, and deliver a product that's competitive. There's so much stacked against it. Case in point: Linux on the desktop.

> I, too, consider it naive to think that a relatively unorganized bunch of people are going to make good chips, It's naive to thing that relatively unorganized bunch of people wrote the most popular OS in existence.

It's much less of a consumer choice, and it's backed by some pretty deep pockets.

Re: Vulnerabilities in chips in 37% of smartphones

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Post by tgv »

mdp2021 wrote: post #33
tgv wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I, too, consider it naive to think that a relatively unorganized bunch of people are going to make good chips, write good drivers and support the whole lot for free, and deliver a product that's competitive. There's so much stacked against it. Case in point: Linux on the desktop.

> Linux on the desktop You mean it's fully doable and going to become a standard in practice for our peers?

But unfortunately ignored by the masses...

Re: Vulnerabilities in chips in 37% of smartphones

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Post by jmnicolas »

throwawayboise wrote: post #22

My approach with phones is to install apps only from very mainstream well known publishers (for Android, I limit apps mainly to those from Google). Other than the stock Google apps for web browser, email, maps, and phone/contacts/calendar I don't find I need many apps. All computing devices have vulnerabilites. If you feel you need to use them regardless, you can avoid a lot of exploits by not installing random apps…

If the vulnerability is in the chip it doesn't matter what apps you install. Even with a bare OS you're vulnerable.

Re: Vulnerabilities in chips in 37% of smartphones

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Post by jacquesm »

mdp2021 wrote: post #34
jacquesm wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And Toyota's reliability, pricing, parts availability, practicality and comfort.

(Yes, ) But without the current privacy policies, thanks. (Context: I was informed two years ago, by resellers, that Toyota was sending data from the cars to their own servers - just this very capability embedded in the car already some find completely unacceptable - and that they intended to demand the signature of agreements loose about privacy.)

Agreed. That's why I bought an old car and restored it to new state rather than to go with the more current crop. A couple of near misses on account of software bugs that tried to kill me were enough to convince me to opt out, and that's before I got into tracking the vehicle and sending other data.

Re: Vulnerabilities in chips in 37% of smartphones

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Post by jacquesm »

jmnicolas wrote: post #37
throwawayboise wrote: post #22

My approach with phones is to install apps only from very mainstream well known publishers (for Android, I limit apps mainly to those from Google). Other than the stock Google apps for web browser, email, maps, and phone/contacts/calendar I don't find I need many apps. All computing devices have vulnerabilites. If you feel you need to use them regardless, you can avoid a lot of exploits by not installing random apps…

If the vulnerability is in the chip it doesn't matter what apps you install. Even with a bare OS you're vulnerable.

Vulnerable from what though?

- leaking your location

- having your conversations intercepted

- having your messages intercepted

- having yourself impersonated

- having your contacts lifted

There are so many options.

Re: Vulnerabilities in chips in 37% of smartphones

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Post by jacquesm »

tgv wrote: post #36
mdp2021 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Linux on the desktop You mean it's fully doable and going to become a standard in practice for our peers?

But unfortunately ignored by the masses...

That's fine. At least they have the choice.
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