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90% of Black Friday deals were the same price or cheaper six months before

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Re: 90% of Black Friday deals were the same price or cheaper six months before

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I live in slovenia. We literally have all-month black friday "deals".

Steam sales lost all meaning years ago. It happens to everything that transitions from rare to usual

They haven't lost meaning, you can still wait a bit to get your game cheaper. It does usually follow a pattern of: opening sale 10%, full price for a bit, seasonal sales 10-50%, eventually up to 90% off during seasonal sales.

Re: 90% of Black Friday deals were the same price or cheaper six months before

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Oh wow. 5000 to just 100! Reminds me of that south park episode "These are genuine faux sapphire earrings. 14-carat gold, 86-carat faux sapphire. Faux is French. It's got an X in it, but you don't pronounce it. How do you like that for prestigious?"

You joke but I recently heard a term "original copy" going around in my wife's circle. Turns out, that term is to signify something that is a near-perfect copy of a designer item. These are not cheap either; they sell for at least 20x the price of a "non-original copy" i.e. inferior fake.

"Original X for iPhone" or something like that has been a thing for many years. Miss the for (if you don't know the language very well, like many shoppers from around here for example), and you're screwed.

Re: 90% of Black Friday deals were the same price or cheaper six months before

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A quick reminder that unless you were going to buy it anyway, a reduced price is not a "deal". You're spending more money than you otherwise would.

And that is if the price isn't jacked up before and the reduced price is fake.

Re: 90% of Black Friday deals were the same price or cheaper six months before

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This take is wrong, Black Friday has always been about the beginning of the holiday shopping season, traditionally holiday decorations started the day after Thanksgiving and the doorbuster deals are loss leaders to drive traffic to stores. Source: middle age American. Also history: https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/11/24/franskgivi...

Sorry, I didn't mean that what I said was the origin, only that was what it was marketed as around that period, and I should clarify my context that I was talking about what it was like in Canada, where it has only relatively recently become a thing. I guess what I meant to refer to was its etymological shift from the "selling excess stock" narrative in America (which itself was just a rebranding of the previous mean…

> "selling excess stock" narrative in America

That wasn't the narrative in 2002, my first Black Friday.

Re: 90% of Black Friday deals were the same price or cheaper six months before

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This have been a joke for a few years here in Brazil, we call the day "Black Fraud" (sounds a little better in Portuguese) The relevant point is that Black Friday is an "artificial" event here: we do not celebrate Thanksgiving Day so there is no need for a the stores to get rid of unsold inventory. It started just ~10 years ago when marketers began advertising it as a sales day.

Same in southern Europe, cultural imperialism becomes apparent when one notices that all local festivities (often of Celt, Roman, and Greek origin) have been replaced by commercial crap.

Re: 90% of Black Friday deals were the same price or cheaper six months before

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It literally meant the day stores would go into the "black" because many stores would be in the red for the year overall until they sold so much on that one day they'd turn a profit for the year or go into the "black" on their accounting.

You are repeating a fairy tale some marketers invented to explain the black friday name. Black friday is a term for a day when something horrible ocurs, the term was applied to the day after thanksgiving by police in an american city because of the difficulty in maintaining crowd control and it caught on.

If you're so certain your etymology is the right one, you should probably be able to name the city.

Re: 90% of Black Friday deals were the same price or cheaper six months before

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If you care about the climate crisis you should avoid participating in sales like this. It’s a very unsustainable pattern that must go away. Buy what you need when you need it (or even better borrow it), don’t buy a bunch of things that happen to be cheap at a sale. It’s a mindset shift that needs to happen NOW!

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Re: 90% of Black Friday deals were the same price or cheaper six months before

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You are repeating a fairy tale some marketers invented to explain the black friday name. Black friday is a term for a day when something horrible ocurs, the term was applied to the day after thanksgiving by police in an american city because of the difficulty in maintaining crowd control and it caught on.

If you're so certain your etymology is the right one, you should probably be able to name the city.

Philadelphia and Rochester. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(shopping)#Origin...
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