Batteries included with Emacs (2020)

Post by d_tr » Thu, Nov 25, 2021, 9:03 PM UTC

Mikeb85 wrote: post #77

chlorion wrote: post #66

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It's worth mentioning that Emacs is not a text-only editor, but is able to function in a text only environment if configured to. I think many people never consider giving Emacs a shot because they think it's purely a terminal based program. Modern Emacs can be (and mostly is) compiled with GTK support and features a GTK interface, but can be launched in text-mode with a command line argument. If you don't mind using…

> If you don't mind using bleeding edge versions, there is a branch called "PGTK" that allows the GTK interface to run natively on Wayland! The two biggest Linux distros (Ubuntu and Fedora) are Wayland by default now. And the 'standard' Emacs distribution you install through the Software 'store' in both is GTK (which of course works). Wayland support isn't really a big deal anymore. I haven't come across any apps tha…

Post by BlueTemplar » Thu, Nov 25, 2021, 9:12 PM UTC

Mikeb85 wrote: post #75

lawn wrote: post #49

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I find it amazing how common it is for programmers to not be touch typists (I mean typing without looking at the keys). Like, isn't that something you pick up by the sheer amount of keyboard time?

I'm not that old (30's) but we were forced into learning how to touch-type throughout grade-school. Pretty much any white-collar work requires it. Getting through university basically requires it (even humanities courses; good luck writing long essays without it). It's shocking that anyone who went through school in a developed country can't touch-type.

Post by ced » Thu, Nov 25, 2021, 9:16 PM UTC

zdragnar wrote: post #59

lawn wrote: post #49

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I find it amazing how common it is for programmers to not be touch typists (I mean typing without looking at the keys). Like, isn't that something you pick up by the sheer amount of keyboard time?

I'm a touch typist, but emacs chords always bothered me. I feel much more content switching to mouse or track pad for things like switching tabs, picking files from a file tree to copy / paste or duplicate or whatever, etc. That said, being a programmer and not touch typing definitely sounds odd to me as well

Post by bitbckt » Thu, Nov 25, 2021, 9:23 PM UTC

baby wrote: post #79

dotancohen wrote: post #35

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You might like VIM. In VIM everything has a shortcut as well. In fact, in VIM, everything _is_ a shortcut.

How do you find commands if you don’t know the shortcuts though? Or if you installed a new plugin? That’s my big problem with emacs and why I don’t use it anymore.

Post by Mikeb85 » Thu, Nov 25, 2021, 9:23 PM UTC

BlueTemplar wrote: post #83

Mikeb85 wrote: post #75

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I'm not that old (30's) but we were forced into learning how to touch-type throughout grade-school. Pretty much any white-collar work requires it. Getting through university basically requires it (even humanities courses; good luck writing long essays without it). It's shocking that anyone who went through school in a developed country can't touch-type.

You're assuming that most of the writing is done on computers - but depending on the discipline - it isn't : computers aren't nowhere nearly good enough to compete with paper / chalk (/ even whiteboard !) when it comes to mathematics-heavy domains.