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What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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I am not trying to defend China or the CCP in any way here, the situation is not defensible. However, I'm surprised that more comparisons haven't been made to the way the West has erased Julian Assange, and how easily he disappeared from our collective consciousness.

These are very different things.

Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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Every time there is a story that criticizes China's Communist Party there is a flood of troll-like comments here in Hacker News. Lot of "What about X" comments and just general trolling and uncivil behavior.

As a non-Chinese I never could understand the relationship of CCP, Chinese nationals and Chinese immigrants in the US and West. To me, it seems very hyocritcal to live in the Western societies and be very pro-CCP. I have interacted with many Chinese immigrants that defend CCP at any cost. I'm very confused about it.

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>His tabloid then tweeted what looked like staged videos of Ms Peng having dinner at a restaurant with her coach and meeting children at a tennis event. Is the production of deepfakes by the world's largest internal security service outside the domain of plausibility? A smart programmer can crank one out in a weekend by themself. What can an entire cyber security bureau accomplish with the backing of the CCP?

a) Peng is represented by a deep faked body clone while she rots in a See See Pee blacksite. b) Washington media is blowing literally any scandal out of proportion in a propaganda blitz aimed at tarnishing Beijing 2022. Occam's Razor, anyone?

It's funny, I tried applying Occam's Razor and was not able to find the simplest conclusion. Especially since in (b) "Washington media" should actually read "WTA and the women's tennis community".

Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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I wonder if the readers/commenters realize there is a massive blackout about this in China. All this propaganda is directed at us. check Laowhy86's video about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Dc4tNY7S6Q

I wouldn't trust Laowhy86's videos on topics about China. His channel is very clear on anti-china progaganda.

Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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An interesting different narrative. https://www.mintpressnews.com/olympolitik-fake-peng-shuai-sc...

Hahaha

A cursory read through the Mint Press wiki page reveals it's an affiliate channel from Russia Today.

Also nice section around the opacity of their funding and revenue model.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MintPress_News

Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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post #31

>His tabloid then tweeted what looked like staged videos of Ms Peng having dinner at a restaurant with her coach and meeting children at a tennis event. Is the production of deepfakes by the world's largest internal security service outside the domain of plausibility? A smart programmer can crank one out in a weekend by themself. What can an entire cyber security bureau accomplish with the backing of the CCP?

a) Peng is represented by a deep faked body clone while she rots in a See See Pee blacksite. b) Washington media is blowing literally any scandal out of proportion in a propaganda blitz aimed at tarnishing Beijing 2022. Occam's Razor, anyone?

The WTA is threatening to pull billions of dollars out of business out of China. The outcry is coming from all over the world, not just "Washington media".

And if you believe the scandal is being "blown out of proportion", well there are a lot of us who disagree.

Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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> Ms Peng, who is 35, was doomed from the moment she posted her late-night essay.

> The fate of Ms Peng could yet become grimmer.

This is not journalism. There is nothing of objective substance to this piece. This is literally just smut for sinophobes.

In 20 years we will look back at this incredible nonsense and wonder how we every got here. Hopefully.

Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

#58

I am not trying to defend China or the CCP in any way here, the situation is not defensible. However, I'm surprised that more comparisons haven't been made to the way the West has erased Julian Assange, and how easily he disappeared from our collective consciousness.

The West hasn’t censored Assange, though. Throughout he has been free to say whatever he wants to say whenever he wants to say it. Him disappearing from collective consciousness says more about the speed of news cycles these days than anything about censorship, IMO.

Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can’t help but wonder how badly the CCP is actually fighting to suppress this, though - I think I heard laowhy86 argue that they might allow it to consume the news cycle, to distract from something else. Seeing this comment, and seeing e.g. CBS highlight the story, it really just seems fishy in general. Something is different - maybe we’re just in a new era, but who knows.

laowhy86 is about as reliable a source on China as Alex Jones on Sandy Hook. Bottom of the gutter grifting.

Having lived in Beijing and Shenzhen for almost 7 years, I find that where I have first hand experience his reporting is pretty accurate.

Would you mind to elaborate why you consider it bottom of the gutter grifting? Genuinely curious to hear another perspective.

Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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I wonder if the readers/commenters realize there is a massive blackout about this in China. All this propaganda is directed at us. check Laowhy86's video about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Dc4tNY7S6Q

I don't want to detract from the main story, because we need to call this out regardless of the source nation, but it really does grind my gears the way that Western politicians use this kind of thing to strengthen the anti-Chinese FUD, when there are similar issues at home they could actually do something about, but don't (or worse, even support it - usually "because terrorists, paedos, foreigners etc").
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