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What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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She has appeared several times on social media, and said she is ok, but prefer her privacy to be respected. IOC president has reportedly talked to her, and said she seems to be ok. What more do we need?

I don't believe anything until CCP let her leave the country

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>His tabloid then tweeted what looked like staged videos of Ms Peng having dinner at a restaurant with her coach and meeting children at a tennis event. Is the production of deepfakes by the world's largest internal security service outside the domain of plausibility? A smart programmer can crank one out in a weekend by themself. What can an entire cyber security bureau accomplish with the backing of the CCP?

a) Peng is represented by a deep faked body clone while she rots in a See See Pee blacksite.

b) Washington media is blowing literally any scandal out of proportion in a propaganda blitz aimed at tarnishing Beijing 2022.

Occam's Razor, anyone?

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There is no Streisand effect on the dark side of the Great Firewall. There, a scandal has a short lifespan. It is hard for the censors to prevent its birth, but its progeny, the discussion and the aftereffects, are easily nipped with keyword blocking and disabling comments. What effects does this have on Chinese society? What happens when the only public scandals are those that are convenient for the government?

The dissent moves offline. To kitchens and smoking rooms. And judging by what happened in the USSR, it results in a social apathy and, eventually, economic stagnation.

Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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The media's reporting on Peng Shuai's case is... let's say, incomplete. For a better picture, one should read her original Weibo post. Here is a translation: https://www.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/qmn69a/full_transla... I've checked this translation and I agree with most of it.

How is the specific content of her Weibo post relevant at all here?

The issue is that the woman was kidnapped by the Chinese government because simple because she spoke out publicly, and it seems to me that the media’s reporting has been very complete in that regard.

What specifically has been lacking?

Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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The media's reporting on Peng Shuai's case is... let's say, incomplete. For a better picture, one should read her original Weibo post. Here is a translation: https://www.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/qmn69a/full_transla... I've checked this translation and I agree with most of it.

The media never picks up on this, as expected

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An interesting different narrative. https://www.mintpressnews.com/olympolitik-fake-peng-shuai-sc...

Without commenting on the validity of the article, it is true that the data in circulation about China in the West is highly distorted due to barriers in language, culture and the internet. While this does not mean that China would necessarily be any less "evil" than it seems to be, details can rarely be trusted.

Do you think it's distorted because of that, or because of America's agenda against China itself? Seems like an easy and convenient way to sow distrust and hate, no?

On the other hand, if what is reported is true, then more power to her.

Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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She has appeared several times on social media, and said she is ok, but prefer her privacy to be respected. IOC president has reportedly talked to her, and said she seems to be ok. What more do we need?

Actual evidence that cannot be (as easily) produced by pressuring her into creating it would be useful. That probably means her meeting with WTA officials outside of China on her own itinerary, and without handlers watching her every move.

The fact that the WTA kept the pressure on may ultimately prevent the Chinese political bigwig she accused from crushing her, and may eventually help other Chinese women in a similar position. For some senior male politicians in China this seems not to be about Peng personally, but about protecting the continued practice of concubinage for the political top of the CCP; something that is exemplified by Chinese state media essentially ignoring the allegations of sexual abuse.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can’t help but wonder how badly the CCP is actually fighting to suppress this, though - I think I heard laowhy86 argue that they might allow it to consume the news cycle, to distract from something else. Seeing this comment, and seeing e.g. CBS highlight the story, it really just seems fishy in general. Something is different - maybe we’re just in a new era, but who knows.

laowhy86 is about as reliable a source on China as Alex Jones on Sandy Hook. Bottom of the gutter grifting.

Ok, do you have any recommendations for uh, China analysis YouTubers?
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