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What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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>His tabloid then tweeted what looked like staged videos of Ms Peng having dinner at a restaurant with her coach and meeting children at a tennis event.

Is the production of deepfakes by the world's largest internal security service outside the domain of plausibility? A smart programmer can crank one out in a weekend by themself. What can an entire cyber security bureau accomplish with the backing of the CCP?

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> With the Winter Olympics opening in Beijing in February, the IOC and corporate sponsors have multi-billion-dollar reasons to help China make the Peng Shuai story go away. Therein lies a bleak lesson. The WTA has been brave in challenging China, given that it has organised lucrative tournaments there. But as a women’s sports association, it depends on retaining the confidence of women players. Sometimes there are in…

Didn't know context of joke here, so looked it up: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/11/jamie-dimon-quickly-...

The quotation seems to be garbled in that link, https://www.fnlondon.com/articles/jamie-dimon-jokes-jpmorgan... has one that makes more sense

> The Communist Party is celebrating its 100th year. So is JPMorgan. And I’ll make you a bet we last longer.

Tho second link isn't a citation for:

> I can’t say that in China. They are probably listening anyway.

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The WTA have done an amazing job of raising the profile of this case and keeping the story in the media. I have to admit that despite watching a lot of tennis, prior to this incident I was not familiar with Peng Shai. Doubles tennis is a little bit like a sport within a sport though.

I can’t help but wonder how badly the CCP is actually fighting to suppress this, though - I think I heard laowhy86 argue that they might allow it to consume the news cycle, to distract from something else. Seeing this comment, and seeing e.g. CBS highlight the story, it really just seems fishy in general. Something is different - maybe we’re just in a new era, but who knows.

Making CCP sweat a little bit for human rights is indeed a new era

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post #22

The WTA have done an amazing job of raising the profile of this case and keeping the story in the media. I have to admit that despite watching a lot of tennis, prior to this incident I was not familiar with Peng Shai. Doubles tennis is a little bit like a sport within a sport though.

I can’t help but wonder how badly the CCP is actually fighting to suppress this, though - I think I heard laowhy86 argue that they might allow it to consume the news cycle, to distract from something else. Seeing this comment, and seeing e.g. CBS highlight the story, it really just seems fishy in general. Something is different - maybe we’re just in a new era, but who knows.

laowhy86 is about as reliable a source on China as Alex Jones on Sandy Hook. Bottom of the gutter grifting.

Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

#36

She has appeared several times on social media, and said she is ok, but prefer her privacy to be respected. IOC president has reportedly talked to her, and said she seems to be ok. What more do we need?

I don't generally give creedence to what hostages say at gunpoint, and it beggars belief that Peng Shuai, who just aired explosive allegations of sexual assault to a huge audience, wants her "privacy to be respected" and the story to go away.

The IOC is actively aiding the CCP's repression by passing that along.

Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

#37
I’m very happy to see WTA take it directly to the Olympic level and also threaten to recall WTA tournaments in China.

Note the third para that describes the censorship. How despicably efficient is the Chinese censorship apparatus that they caught this and deleted it within an hour and commenced with clean-up. They knew this could have incited dissent.

If this is the “utopia” that awaits us in the up-and-coming centralized walled gardens of software, count me out.

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post #32
post #6

> With the Winter Olympics opening in Beijing in February, the IOC and corporate sponsors have multi-billion-dollar reasons to help China make the Peng Shuai story go away. Therein lies a bleak lesson. The WTA has been brave in challenging China, given that it has organised lucrative tournaments there. But as a women’s sports association, it depends on retaining the confidence of women players. Sometimes there are in…

Didn't know context of joke here, so looked it up: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/11/jamie-dimon-quickly-... The quotation seems to be garbled in that link, https://www.fnlondon.com/articles/jamie-dimon-jokes-jpmorgan... has one that makes more sense > The Communist Party is celebrating its 100th year. So is JPMorgan. And I’ll make you a bet we last longer. Tho second link isn't a citation for: > I can’t say th…

If you really want to ensure you're on the CCP's shit list, casually call it Occupied West Taiwan and show a Kuomintang flag.

Re: What Peng Shuai reveals about one-party rule

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post #20

An interesting different narrative. https://www.mintpressnews.com/olympolitik-fake-peng-shuai-sc...

Without commenting on the validity of the article, it is true that the data in circulation about China in the West is highly distorted due to barriers in language, culture and the internet. While this does not mean that China would necessarily be any less "evil" than it seems to be, details can rarely be trusted.

Well we always find out the mainstream news coverage is either fake, distorted or falsehoods by omission post-mortem (pun intended). Reminds me of Brezinski setting up the "Afghan trap" for the Soviets (his own words) and then the Carter administration boycotting the Moscow Olympics. History and the boycotting play just seems to rhyme awfully well:

Our hope instead was to prolong the war, keeping the Soviets bogged down in Afghanistan. Zbigniew Brzezinski is quite open about this. In the same 1997 interview, he speaks of “drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap.” He claims: “The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter: ‘We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam War.’”

https://www.ellsworthamerican.com/opinions/commentary/commen...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Summer_Olympics_boycott

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2021/11/24/heres-the-...

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