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A toaster from 1949 is still smarter than any sold today

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Re: A toaster from 1949 is still smarter than any sold today

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His whole channel (called Technology Connections) is probably my favorite one on YouTube, can’t recommend it enough! My favorites are his series on refrigeration and heat pumps, for example this one: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7J52mDjZzto Edit: to clarify, this article is based on an old Technology Connections video, and the creator of that video has lots more!

Love his channel! My favourite videos are the ones about dishwashers.

CED saga for me.

Re: A toaster from 1949 is still smarter than any sold today

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There is definitely a market for the resurgence of some of high quality old-timey products, especially those with some novelty. Sunbeam should literally do a Kickstarter to get the marketing going.

It would probably be easier for a new company to decide to do this than an existing company with bureaucratic cruft. And it's not like Sunbeam has any critical IP rights here, since the design is from many decades ago.

My grandparents gave me one of these and I used it for a decade or so before it stopped working. I considered trying to fix it, but with little kids on the horizon, I was concerned about the safety issues (unlike new toasters, these old ones can electrocute you). If I'd known I could have had my old one retrofitted and made safer, as other oommenters have pointed out, I'd have done that instead. At least I got 50 bucks for it on ebay though!

Re: A toaster from 1949 is still smarter than any sold today

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post #17

There is definitely a market for the resurgence of some of high quality old-timey products, especially those with some novelty. Sunbeam should literally do a Kickstarter to get the marketing going.

I've thought about this for a while. Imagine a line of "dumb" dishwashers, toasters, ovens, stoves, microwaves, etc., all well-designed and made with sturdy materials. Unfortunately, I think they'd cost 6-10x going rate as modern "smart" appliances, and also the market for them would be restricted to HN commenters.

I have wondered about this. It would likely start out very expensive but could get cheaper over time if it got any traction. Would it ever be as cheap as the current crop? Unlikely.

The initial market would definitely be limited to those with an appreciation for the concept and the funds to support it but it seems possible that after establishing a niche brand known for quality and reliability you could expand beyond the early adopters.

It would be an expensive experiment though.

Re: A toaster from 1949 is still smarter than any sold today

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There is definitely a market for the resurgence of some of high quality old-timey products, especially those with some novelty. Sunbeam should literally do a Kickstarter to get the marketing going.

Sunbeam is currently owned by Newell Brands (Carl Icahn) whose other brands include Coleman, Parker Pen, Calphalon, and First Alert. They certainly don't need the money to kickstart a campaign, but it would be interesting to know if Kickstarter would entertain the idea of a subsidiary of Newell Brands running a marketing campaign on its platform. Are there other large corporate brands that you know of that have launc…

Yes. At least for boardgames, sub-brands of billion dollar companies regularly run Kickstarters.

Why would KS have any problem with that?

Re: A toaster from 1949 is still smarter than any sold today

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Re-making these toasters is probably a great idea for a kickstarter.

Yeah, my question after reading this is why can't I buy a modern version of this toaster? Would it be too expensive? Just seems odd.

Seems like a PID could do all this and more personally. I suspect someone kickstarts exactly that in short order and then I buy one down the road after it ends up in e-tail because I never got that PID espresso maker so no more kickstarters for me.

Re: A toaster from 1949 is still smarter than any sold today

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post #17

There is definitely a market for the resurgence of some of high quality old-timey products, especially those with some novelty. Sunbeam should literally do a Kickstarter to get the marketing going.

I've thought about this for a while. Imagine a line of "dumb" dishwashers, toasters, ovens, stoves, microwaves, etc., all well-designed and made with sturdy materials. Unfortunately, I think they'd cost 6-10x going rate as modern "smart" appliances, and also the market for them would be restricted to HN commenters.

Maybe less dumb and more easily repairable? Microcontrollers are great, just make a standardized component for all the things that can be unplugged and replaced and have at it. Why must we late-stage capitalism everything?

Re: A toaster from 1949 is still smarter than any sold today

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Shitty blogspam article that just copies the original video by Technology Connections

Sure but I imagine it has resulted in a lot of exposure for Technology Connections.

The person doing the work gets “exposure” while the copy/pasters get free ad revenue?

Doesn’t sound like a fair shake to me

Re: A toaster from 1949 is still smarter than any sold today

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post #23

Shitty blogspam article that just copies the original video by Technology Connections

IMO The Verge, MKBHD, LTT, Snazzy Labs, etc are entertainment platforms, not tech reviewers. Often lacking conviction, criticism, strong opinions, technical know-how and ability to do the hardwork for objective comparisons. They spend more time polishing the video, studio neatness and thumbnails than informing the public.

They're optimized for viewership and revenue.

Re: A toaster from 1949 is still smarter than any sold today

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post #17

There is definitely a market for the resurgence of some of high quality old-timey products, especially those with some novelty. Sunbeam should literally do a Kickstarter to get the marketing going.

I've thought about this for a while. Imagine a line of "dumb" dishwashers, toasters, ovens, stoves, microwaves, etc., all well-designed and made with sturdy materials. Unfortunately, I think they'd cost 6-10x going rate as modern "smart" appliances, and also the market for them would be restricted to HN commenters.

Heck, I'd settle for a mil-spec umbrella. One that you don't have to replace every season!!!

But they don't seem to exist AFAICT...

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