The fish shell is amazing

Post by ViViDboarder » Thu, Nov 25, 2021, 6:20 PM UTC

kbd wrote: post #64

rainingmonkey wrote: post #24

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> while Fish has some nice out-of-the-box features, they’re all achievable in Zsh with a few lines of plugins. The point of fish is that there is no configuration required. You don't have to learn to configure it, you don't have to be part of "the community" to learn which plugins to use, you'll be able to sit in front of any fish prompt and have it work as expected without having to move dotfiles around.

That's a cool argument for Fish for beginners. When you spend thousands of hours in a shell that doesn't matter as much. I don't see any benefit for someone who has Zsh set up well, but yes you do have to google once how to configure auto-completion and so on.

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Nov 25, 2021, 6:28 PM UTC

philipswood wrote: post #46

nojito wrote: post #11

Fish is good, but most shells pale in comparison to powershell unfortunately.

PowerShell: Maybe the learning curve is steep or something, but the times I've had to use it I disliked it. I want to like it. It's goals and purposes seem to be in the right place, but.... Nope.

Post by KptMarchewa » Thu, Nov 25, 2021, 6:36 PM UTC

emersion wrote: post #91

thrwyoilarticle wrote: post #63

Shells and scripting languages are different things. I don't care how good of a scripting language Powershell is, it's painful to use as a shell. I don't care that fish can't run sh scripts, I've never used it on a machine that didn't have sh. Can we stop judging oranges for their lack of crunch?

It's pretty common to copy-paste POSIX sh one-liners, or `source` a simple script. fish makes this annoying to do.

Post by buu700 » Thu, Nov 25, 2021, 6:38 PM UTC

pxc wrote: post #74

thrwyoilarticle wrote: post #63

Shells and scripting languages are different things. I don't care how good of a scripting language Powershell is, it's painful to use as a shell. I don't care that fish can't run sh scripts, I've never used it on a machine that didn't have sh. Can we stop judging oranges for their lack of crunch?

Ideally you do want them to be the same, so that the skill of using one reinforces the skill of using the other, and you can begin to shape scripts out of your shell history. Output redirection doesn't work right with Fish functions, which makes them unusable in certain kinds of scripts. Aside from that, though, Fish is perfectly pleasant for simple scripting. I use Fish for simple stuff and PowerShell for anything s…

Post by boudin » Thu, Nov 25, 2021, 6:48 PM UTC

pxc wrote: post #89

boudin wrote: post #53

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You don't need to rewrite any script as long as your scripts have the correct shebang, those scripts works perfectly. I would strongly not advise to make it the default shell though as this can lead to issues. The way I use it is to have bash as my main shell but my .bashrc starting fish if it's not started explicitly from bash: (it's a trick form arch wiki) if [[ $(ps --no-header --pid=$PPID --format=cmd) != "fish"…

> I would strongly not advise to make it the default shell though as this can lead to issues. I've heard this a lot, but I've been using Fish as my login shell for many years, and it's really not a problem I think maybe some vim plugins call out to your $SHELL or something, but assume that it's bash-like? but I've never run into a serious issue with just using Fish as my login shell